Still, the reference certainly makes Venharl active during Errol's adventuring lifetime, and that precludes his having died when Argrath was a small boy. (I decline to bring Ressurections into the equation!) We know Argrath lost one set of parents in Sartar when he was 14. Since Maniski and Yanioth are definitely resident in Sartar, and Venharl is not, it seems likely that that was them. We need him to have had two sets of parents, one blood and one foster, for the two ancestries to both be "true". Therefore, the blood parents must have been the ones the Saga mentions him losing at a very early age (even if it does get very confused about who they were). I'd accept the idea that "losing" actually means that one or both simply left him, and given Venharl's tendency to wander I can see him doing this. But we still need to explain how his mother died (or something) when he was very young. And unless she died twice, she wasn't Yanioth.
> I still disagree - strongly - with your statement that Yanioth was
> Maniski the Stickpicker's wife;
See CHDP. 'Argrath revealed his ancestry. "My father was Maniski, as honorable and
brave warrior as ever walked among the Sartari. My mother was Yanioth
Two-sight,...'
Maniski was no stickpicker according to this, and he and Yanioth may not
have been formally married but are certainly being mentioned as a pair.
> IMO Yanioth was Argrath's natural wife,
You did mean "mother", didn't you? Please? (Not that I agree with
either).
>>The only hole left is where Garrath gets his supposed Sartar blood from.
>>The main possibilities I can see are: 1) he doesn't have any
>Unlikely.
Why? What has he ever done to prove that he has any? He didn't light the
Flame, or even make it flicker: he hit it with a lightning bolt! (And
wasn't burnt at all as a result, not even a little bit, honest).
> I criticise Kallyr for lack of results against the Lunars. Especially
> in 1627... Kallyr seems to want to sit out the problem with Lunar
> reprisals.
According to CHDP and Denseros. Why do you keep pretending he would have
told us what she had done?
>>He was doing his best to DIS-unify Sartar - even CHDP admits it!
>I doubt that that was his aim when he took away followers from Kallyr...
Really? Why?
> Better/more effective ruler: IMO an effective ruler is better than an
> idealistic but uneffective ruler.
Which seems to be saying that the end justifies the means. I disagree,
and I think the peasants in the Kingdom of War would do so also.
Jane Williams jane_at_williams.nildram.co.uk http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~janewill/gloranth/
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