Allowing Gods

From: Mikael Raaterova <amr_at_swipnet.se>
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:20:12 +0200


I know i should just wait for this thread to die and not put more fuel to the fire, but...

Richard, Sir Believe-a-lot:

>First of all: chicken and egg.
>
>The answer I would propose lies pre great compromise. In other words,
>gods were allowed to exist without worship before the great compromise.
>At that point worship was established but after the compromise they
>needed it to continue to exist.

You say that the gods *were allowed* to exist. By whom? If there is a being which can allow or deny the existence of gods, then that being must surely exist of its own accord without the need for worship? And if that being can exist by itself, then why can't the gods do the same trick?

Richard, why do you feel the need to make the gods dependent on human worship when it doesn't serve to further our understanding of Glorantha, but rather complicating things beyond the normal level of confusion?

Also, if worship is causal to manifestation, one would have to posit that there is massive worship of *humans* going on to keep humans existing. Who worships the humans? Or for that matter the elder races. And, of course, the Big Question - who worships the *Grotarons* to keep them manifest?

>> They have to _share_ idea-space, theorem-space, whatever we care to
>> call it. Where there is a conflict, there must be compromise.

Let's take a highly relevant example:

I know i'm right and i know you're wrong. It doesn't really matter how *you* see it; we'd still have a conflict based on me opposing you. I want the conflict to end with you seeing the error of your ways. You won't convince me that manifestation follows worship (because it's a silly idea).

But i'll compromise: it'll suffice if you just shut up.

End of The Glorantha Digest V5 #575


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