Jose Ramos: =
>Asking God directly is (IMO) sinful, as you doubt its omniscience
>and omnipotence, and have too much pride believing that your own trouble=
s
>are important.
Not sure I agree with this one. One of God's (self-imposed?)
limitations to his omnipotence is that people have free will.
(This view might be heretical.) From this POV,
if God knew that a prayer *will* take place,
and a worshipper chose *not* to pray,
God would know rather that it *won't*.
Asking God directly is, then, an Act of Faith, and no sin.
IMO asking for help from God with pride is sinful, asking with humility isn't.
____Brithini cognitive functions__________________
>Does an apostate brithini (Arkat, for instance) get a soul "ipso facto",=
>even before age is felt?
IMHO an apostate brithini would only get a soul by heroquesting for one.
Perhaps he would get one by joining a religion, but he'd at the very leas=
t
have to do the long-form initiation solo (to use a Pendragonism) before =
getting one. Similarly for conversion to Malkionism, etc.
>As a former french resident, where in France are you living? =
>I know some people and places to play.
In Paris. Hey: Thanks!
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> you know God feels different in Spain. =
Yup.
>The predictions of terestrial physics fail to describe the conditions on=
>Glorantha, and so they cannot be applicable. =
You misunderstand me. I was suggesting that the scientific *approach*(es) would be similar to RW ones. Perhaps not the 20th century RW, admittedly. Gloranthan reality is of course radically different.
Also terrestrial physics *could* describe gloranthan =
physics, if physicists could travel there, or find some method of measuring Glorantha. Lots of long and hard work for the scientists involved in such a project, though.
>Gravity acts perpendicularly to the world's surface, regardless =
>of your location on it.You might be able to explain this effect, =
>however a stable planetary orbit in a uniform parallel field is =
>impossible, so gloranthan celestial mechanics contradicts =
>universal gravitation.
Um, what about the Sun? Yelm has, I believe, a stable orbit?
Gloranthan physical objects have weight and fall down. =
Therefore, they have gravity. (Mind you, Newton's work did partially change the meaning of this word ...)
>ME>The Law of Universal Attraction, maybe?
SH>_A_ law, or perhaps principle, of attraction maybe, but not newton's.
Your quibble is sustained, but I think my point was valid. RW science and theory IS applicable.
>ME>Scientific apparatus is a set of mechanical devices
>>which would work perfectly well in Glorantha.
SH>All I can say is that I disagree. Gloranthans witness events every day=
>which contradict the known laws of terestrial physics.
Hmm. OK, they *would* function, but the results you'd get from many of them would in fact be gibberish. I disagree with your estimate of 99.9% though.
>ME>Perhaps, Simon, you are confusing gods with Divinity Itself.
>>Divinity exists before, beyond and within all gods and mortals.
SH>I don't think so. You are directly contradicting your stated possition=
>that belief creates the gods. (etc.) =
Not true. =
Belief doesn't create Divinity, 'cos its already there. A god, however, only encompasses a portion of Divinity, not all of it. (Except for the Invisible God, who does.) Following a cult shapes belief into a god who gives a =
pathway to universal Divinity. The God Plane then sustains the independant existence of the god. Mucho heroquesting necessary.
> there is a process of interaction between humanity
>and divinity which we call religion.
Is religion, then, a branch of chemistry?
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