Joy and Illumination

From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph_at_voyager.co.nz>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:12:13 +1200 (NZST)


Julian Lord:

>BTW : a proposal : given that HW IS apparently going to have Mysticism
>rules, shouldn't we make a distinction between Mysticism and mysticism
>using upper and lower case?

I fail to see the need for the distinction. AFAIK the mysticism rules are intended to cover all mystical paths in glorantha be it illumination, Kralori enlightenment etc. You seem to be using mysticism/illumination as a catchall for heightened spiritual conciousness. I think that definition is far too broad as we could then term every priest and every shaman to have achieved a form of illumination.

>I think that the
>actual materialists are the Brithini, who cannot feel "Joy of the Heart"
>in their materialism, because the world was broken during the Gods' war,
>and matter no longer has the benevolence it did when the Brithini were
>young.

I disagree as the non-brithini Malkioni are also materialists. To them, the notions of the Prime Mover, Solace of the Body and Joy of the Heart are materially provable things. This much has been said a number of times in the current literature. If the Malkioni are not materialists then what exactly are they?

Likewise the impression that the Brithini are dour humorless types because the world was broken in the Ice Age (not the Gods' War) is also misleading. The Brithini are that way because they fear Death. Most Malkioni do not have this fear (or rather they are not obsessed with it like the Brithini are) and are able to take comfort in the proven existance of Solace of the Body and Joy of the Heart. This split occured _before_ the existance of Joy was revealed to Hrestol.

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