Heler

From: Richard, Jeff <Jeff.Richard_at_metrokc.gov>
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:33:46 -0700


Hi there -

Hopefully this message won't have those damn MIME errors. I'm still mulling over the mounds of material on Thundering, so I just wanted to make a quick comment on something Alex wrote:

>I think "borderline pan-sexual" might be a better construction. Heler
>is the role-model for promiscious sexual behaviour, I think this is
>clear, and I believe that the Orlanthi probably see the "active"
>(and hence "male") participant in a homosexual liaison in a not-very
>different light than someone is simply not-very-discriminating
>in his sexual activities generally. (I hope that does not sound
>offensive to anyone. I'm trying to give a feel for what I apprehend
>Orlanthi attitudes to be, not to speak of them overly-approvingly, or
>worse, smirkingly.)

I fully agree with this. The Orlanthi are quite permissive regarding sexual behavior - although adultery is a very serious offense. BTW, the Orlanthi slang term for one who routinely engages in homosexuality is "backboy".

>Heler is certainly not the role model for "passive" homosexuality,
>though. (Which would be Nandan, obviously.)

Again I fully agree.

>> He is a rather impressive martial
>> diety who once conquered the sky and terrorized Glorantha.
>I thought the official take was "sometimes a martial deity, but rarely
>an effective one"? (To quote or paraphrase, depending how close I got.)

Heler seems to be a more effective martial deity than previous sources might have suggested. However he does not rank up there with the four mightiest warriors in Orlanth's Hall - Humakt, Orlanth, Vadrus and Vingkot.

Jeff


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