RE: Re: Invisible Orlanth

From: Weihe, David <Weihe_at_danet.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:59:08 -0400


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From: "Loren Miller" <loren_at_wharton.upenn.edu>

> They practice poetry in the lunar style.  They are stolid and slow
> to anger, yet strong when aroused.  They are great romancers, and
> honey is a holy sacrament.  They have no temples of their own,
> worshipping at shrines in the Red Goddess's temples.  When the
> Red Goddess asks for a favor, they must answer.

They sound like they were based on the Star Bear cult (aka, Odayla), rather than the Orlanth with which we Sartar-watchers are more familiar, perhaps with the Red Goddess substituted in the usual Ernalda role. Is this accurate?

In other words, it looks like what the Lunars planned for Orlanth, according to my RQ2 sources, is succeeding in Carmania, and would then be spread from this "test market".

> Frankly, they are not very Carmanian in style, and this is why they > are controversial, but the Lunar government approves of and encourages them.

I should say not. Where is the "dark" side that Carmanian cults usually have? Or don't the Lunars realize that, among Carmanians, IO will inevitably develop one? Perhaps the old Orlanth, now in hiding?

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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">From: =
&quot;Loren Miller&quot; &lt;loren_at_wharton.upenn.edu&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&gt;</FONT> <FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">They practice poetry in the lunar = style.&nbsp; They are stolid and slow</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">&gt; to =
anger, yet strong when aroused.&nbsp; They are great romancers, = and</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">&gt; honey is =
a holy sacrament.</FONT><U></U><A NAME=3D"_MailData"><U><FONT SIZE=3D2 =

FACE=3D"Arial"></FONT></U></A><U></U><U>&nbsp;<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Courier New"></FONT></U><U> <FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Courier New">They have no temples of their =
own,</FONT></U><U></U>
<BR><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier =
New">&gt;</FONT></U><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier = New"> worshipping at shrines in</FONT></U><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New"></FONT></U><U> <FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">the Red Goddess's temples.&nbsp; When = the</FONT></U><U></U>
<BR><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier =
New">&gt;</FONT></U><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier = New"> Red Goddess asks for a favor, they must</FONT></U><U><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New"></FONT></U><U> <FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier = New">answer.</FONT></U><U></U>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">They sound like they were based =
on the Star Bear cult (</FONT><U><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier = New">aka,</FONT></U> <FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier = New">Odayla),</FONT><U></U>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">rather than</FONT><U><FONT =
SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New"></FONT></U> <FONT SIZE=3D2 = FACE=3D"Courier New">the Orlanth with which we Sartar-watchers = are</FONT><U> <FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">more</FONT></U>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">familiar</FONT><U><FONT =
SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">, perhaps with the Red Goddess = substitute</FONT></U><U><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">d in the = usual</FONT></U>
<BR><U><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">Ernalda role</FONT></U><FONT =
SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">.</FONT><U><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier = New">&nbsp;</FONT></U> <FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">Is = this</FONT> <FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">ac</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D2 = FACE=3D"Courier New">c</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier = New">u</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">r</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D2 = FACE=3D"Courier New">at</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier = New">e?</FONT><U></U>
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<P><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">In other =
words, it looks like</FONT></U><U> <FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 = FACE=3D"Courier New">what the Lunars planned for Orlanth,</FONT></U>
<BR><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier =
New">a</FONT></U><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier = New">ccording to my RQ2</FONT></U> <FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =

FACE=3D"Courier New">s</FONT><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Courier New">o</FONT></U><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Courier New">urce</FONT><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Courier New">s,</FONT></U> <FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Courier New">i</FONT><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Courier New">s succeed</FONT></U><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">ing</FONT><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New"> in Carmania</FONT></U><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">,</FONT><U><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New"> and</FONT></U><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New"> would</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">then be =
spread from this &quot;test market&quot;.</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">&gt;</FONT> =
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">Frankly, they are =
not very Carmanian in style, and this is why they </FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">&gt;</FONT> =
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">are =
controversial, but the Lunar government approves of and encourages = them.</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">I should say =
not.&nbsp; Where is the &quot;dark&quot; side that Carmanian = cults</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">usually =
have?&nbsp; Or don't the Lunars realize that, among Carmanians,</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">IO will =
inevitably develop one?</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =

FACE=3D"Courier New"></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Courier New"> Perhaps</FONT> <FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Courier New">th</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Courier New">e</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Courier New"> old Orlanth,</FONT> <FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">now</FONT> <FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">in hiding</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New">?</FONT>

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