Sandy revealed at the last Glorantha Con Down Under II that in= fact the Closing is a seperate effect, destroying the ships and= spreading from Brithos; from the infestation of monsters= througout the ocean.
> peter metcalfe <metcalph_at_voyager.co.nz>
> Joerg Baumgartner:
> >>[The Closing] doesn't affect swimmers (cf Belintar)
> >I doubt that Belintar is the measure for what
> >normally goes (otherwise you'd expect a year king to
> >come back after his sacrifice).
> Given that the Closing is meant to affect ships and
> that if the Closing affected everything on the ocean,
> it is strange that Belintar did not teach others his
> secret after he became Pharaoh.
> >>so I think spirits (and other orts of magical
> communications) are safe.
> >I don't think so. In this case, the Elder Races of
> >Jrustela would have realized very soon that they
> >were not alone in the world.
> The Closing is not the Syndic's Ban (which does
> affect magical communications). It only affects
> ships. As for the Jrusteli, I can only presume that
> the trauma of their travelling prevented
> communications from being re-established.
The huge and horrible monsters spread out from Monster Island= (east of Magasta's Whirlpool I think) soon after the Closing= swept through. So even if you survive your ship being destroyed= the monsters gladly come and eat you up.
Belintar was different and I believe, based on ancient Con= writeups, is rumoured to be a Godlearner who fell into the= future or else a Hero Wars Hero who fell into the past whilst= HeroQuesting at some disastrous moment of world cataclysm.= (After all he just swam in from the ocean long before Dormal).= Perhaps it is his hints that lead Dormal to work out his= succesful ritual (if I have not got my dates backwards ??).
My personal diabolical theory is ZZabur tried to compel Magasta= to be part of his revenge, however the ritual backfired= (removing Brithos as well) and Magasta's monsters have since had= a field day throughout the oceans with non-sea-deity= worshippers. Dormal's ritual is a side-step from the Closing,= that also appears to hide them from the monsters obvious and= immediate notice. Hence I still think the two are linked, but= not necessarily as neatly as Zzabur wished. After all his allies= the Waertagi still need Dormal's ritual to move about the= oceans, even the ones who made it back fom Hell.
Cheers, Andrew
End of The Glorantha Digest V6 #373
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