Who says it's for "all intents and purposes"? I think the rules the ancestors use (since it's really their decision) are of course up to the specific DM in the specific situation, but not all members of a family are neccesarily equal before the ancestors. To use an extreme example, I doubt most ancestral houses (for lack of a better term?) would see the bastard son of a tribal member whose father was an escaped slave given refuge, conceived upon a kidnapped "bride" as "just as good" as the eldest son of the clan chief.
>>Neither can adopted members (usually) hold clan official seats.
>
>I don't think this is true. Wives (or husbands for matrilineal clans)
>get accepted into the clan with all rights and responsibilities, so
>why not adoptees? If they didn't trust him, they wouldn't have adopted
>him in the first place.
I don't think this is so odd - you can become a naturalized citizen of the
USA, but you still can't be president. Your descendant could. And I think
the rules for subordinate spouses (in terms of lineage) are special - I
can't think offhand of a situation (in RW cultures) where such an
individual would be a candidate for leading offices anyway. Not to say
there might not be subordinate offices that they COULD hold, but not the
Grand High Poobah, or any executive seat (although I can stretch and see
them having a seat on a ruling council -- but never the leader of such).
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>Robin:
>>AFAIK Grandfather Mortal had no physical relations to trolls.
>Nikk:
>Kyger Litor mated with the Man Rune, which I've always assumed to be the Uz
>equivalent of Grandfather Mortal -the name they use to talk about him.
Recall that "grandfather mortal" is actually a GL agglomeration of the numerous culture and race-specific entities who occupied that role in myth. GM is "mortality" not "human".
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