RE: Seasons, etc.

From: Bernuetz, Oliver: WPG <Bernuetz.Oliver_at_cbsc.ic.gc.ca>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 18:10:00 -0500


I'd said:

<< PS Maybe the Winter Solstice is the HHD of Xentha? >>

To which trotsky replied:

> It certainly *ought* to be either her's or Valind's, I agree. But it
>ain't. Valind's is wind/fertility/dark while Xentha's is
god/fertility/dark.
>If somebody does have a HHD on the winter solstice, I don't who it is.

Too bad.

Perhaps one of the many storm gods who got bumped off during Gods Time? Though you'd think winter would be primarily a darkness season. But maybe only originally.

Alex suggested:

>I think that, perhaps perversely-seeming, the solstice's main significance
>is solar. cf well-known other Solar religions, such as that of Invictus
>Sol, and Jesus H. Christ...

>In Dara Happan terms, the WS is the point at which Yelm reaches the
>deepest, blackest part of Hell, goes stark raving bonkers, and becomes
>Illuminated, and reborn thereby. So I'd suggest it was certainly
>a "Seasonal" holy day of Yelm, and one could be faux-clever and suggest
>it was the HHD of some "aspect" of Yelm, or related entity. (Bijiif?
>Rashoran?)

You're operating way out of my knowledge base. Got to get the GROY one of these days...

>Incidentally, although I didn't mention it before, you'll note that Voria,
>goddess of spring, has her day on the spring equinox. But you'd probably
>already noticed that :-)

Actually someone had pointed that out to me in private e-mail but I think I might have noticed by myself:->

Alex said, then I said, then Alex again:

>> >As it's hard to _not_ include ST in spring, when it "wraps around it"
>> >like that, you've ended up with an effectively 12.5 week spring, vs
>> >a 9 week winter...
>
>> I stated before that I felt that Sacred Time was another kettle of
>> fish where any kind of weather could occur for mythological/
>> religious reasons. For instance:

>I think that's fine if you make ST a separate "mini-season", as do the
>Theyalans and the Dara Happans, but it seems more than a little awkward
>to have "spring starts; spring, well, sorta pauses; sacred Time; spring
>resumes; spring ends; summer!" If you're going to but ST in the middle
>of spring, then _effectively_ you're including it in spring, for calendar
>purposes.

I guess but everything else pause at ST in most cultures.

>What weather you get then is another matter, of course. Maybe you
>should living in the British Isles; I guarantee that'll make you
>nice and cynical about what weather to "expect" in a given season!

I think you'd have to live in a desert not to be cynical about the weather.

Oliver


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