Second Age Pavis

From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph_at_bigfoot.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 19:49:30 +1300


Keith Nellist:

>Again, I disagee that the only sensible source of urban craftsmen is the
>EWF. The Port of Sog is nearer, not yet ruined, and presumably contained
>numerous Jrusteli craftspeople.

Sog is at the far side of the desert near the Block, and further from Pavis than Dragon Pass. Feroda, the God Learner port at the base of the Zola Fel, was bunged by the Giants at the same time Robcradle was, and we don't hear of its re-establishment.

And I don't see why a mere port should be assumed to have an abundance of crafters ready to migrate into Pavis. Modern day Corflu doesn't.

>Pavic citizens would have hated and feared the Praxians (IMO) and had as
>little as possible to do with them.

Pavis has made friends with Waha and sworn oaths. When Thog sezied Pavis, he got no help from the Praxians but plenty from the Trolls. Joraz OTOH is said to have raised troops from among the "troll-fearful nomads".

> > Why Ralians [in Pavis]?

>Because rebellious Ralian rabble (sounds like the Life of Brian) were
>savagely repressed in 825 by Godlearner Monks and shipped overseas.
>Pavis would have been looking for labour around this time, hence Ralian
>slaves sold by Middle Sea Empire slave traders.

Doesn't make much sense. To use an analogy that you used, the British shipped their own convicts to Australia rather than Siberia or Devil's Island. Pavis was not part of the God Learner Empire and so the Ralians would have been sent to places like Jrustela or Umathela.

In addition:

	The morokanth developed a lucrative slave trade, 
	shipping civilized sod-busters to Pavis and strong
	nomad slaves to Dragon Pass for other tasks.	
				P&BR p17.

which implies that the "civilized" slaves came from somewhere local rather than further afield.

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