Would sir like one god or two?

From: TTrotsky_at_aol.com
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:21:42 EST


'Terra Incognita':

<< in trend of religious dawning age in the real world, the primitive
christian church and the primitive buddhism have view of masclinism and extreme flesh-hatred (by opinion of barbara walker). does that dualism of matter &spirit comparison with gloranthan pragmatical religion to war & life clear vividly border of two world?>>

     The polytheist and animist religions of Glorantha, such as those of the Orlanthi and Praxians tend to be quite different from present day RW religions such as Christianity and Buddhism (Hinduism and Shinto may be better models, although the best ones are going to be extinct religions like Norse). Their pragmatism is certainly a feature of this difference.

     However, the Malkioni sects do often resemble their RW monotheistic counterparts, and have been described as 'dualist reductionism'. The Rokari, in particular, are a rather straight-laced lot. This may be even more true of Gloranthan mystics, especially the 'orthodox' variety who seek to escape the illusion of the world, by, among other things, putting aside the desires of the flesh.  

<< the dead sea scrolls certified dualism of good &evil under zoroasternism
apparently influencing to judea &fundamental christian religion, >>

     The best equivalent here would be the Carmanian Malkioni.

<< never does byzantine iconoclasm exist in glorantha? >>

    The Rokari Iconoclasts, who reject what they see as idolatrous worship of saints, seem to have a lot in common with their Byzantine counterparts (though also with protestant puritanism). I can certainly see them desecrating mainstream Malkioni churches by tearing down 'graven idols' and their like. As of 1620, they are a small but growing force in Seshnela.  

<< zzabur's blue book(iirc,some references in cofhw) had genealogy as
primitive godlearnish demonology? >>

     Zzabur thought of much of the geneology he described as impersonal forces, as far as I can tell (he seems to describe himself as an atheist). Aside from the Brithini, and perhaps the Vadeli, few people agree with him these days, preferring to believe in a personal God who actually cares what happens to them. However, the foundations of early Malkioni belief are rooted in teachings similar to those of Zzabur, and would indeed have likely served as a starting point for the God Learners.

<< zzabur is strongest wizard and a sence of source wizardcraft of the world
greg's lists of seshnelan kings include various orders of sorcery , which have possibility stole this series of art from isle logica. >>

      There are indeed a number of non-religious orders of sorcery in the west, claiming their inspiration from Zzabur and the Kingdom of Logic (with varying degrees of accuracy, one suspects). Most sorcerors are trained by Malkioni religious orders, mixing monotheist theology and saint-adoration in with the impersonal laws of magic. But the authorites seem to permit a number secular orders to exist as well; the religious beliefs of these people are unclear (at least to me*) but they don't seem to regard interaction with the divine as in any way important to magic. Often they specialise in some particular type of magic, such as death-dealing or whatever.

Forward the glorious Red Army!

    Trotsky


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