Re: The Glorantha Digest V7 #267

From: aelarsen_at_facstaff.wisc.edu
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:05:44 -0600


>From: "Bob Stancliff" <stanclif_at_ufl.edu>
>Subject: Re: The Glorantha Digest V7 #264
>
>> Andrew Larson:
>> <<Thank you for the sentiment, but at the risk of being pedantic
>[snip]>>
>
>> Trotsky
>> Yup, you're pedantic. Correct, but pedantic.

        Why thank ya. Thank ya verry much.

> It is not our fault, nor will I accept this intentional ignorance
>of the
>flaws deriving from the lack of a zero in the number systems of the people
>who set the calendar up initially. If they had known the inherent error
>of their mistake I am certain that they would not have permitted this
>blunder.

        It's not a mistake at all. The system works perfectly well. It's we who have fouled it up by foolishly insisting on adding zeros to it by translating it from Latin to Arabic Numerals. If you count in Latin numerals, it's perfectly obvious that the Millenium has to start on a year ending in I. Right now we're at the start of year MM. Two thousand years will not have gone by until the end of year MM. Or am I just missing your sarcasm?

> For this reason I also choose to wish each of you a wonderful new year,
>decade, and century... I doubt that we here today will be able to enjoy
>the bulk of the millenium.

        Well, there is that. Hey, Fred, what are you doing for the Millenium? Fred: Well, I'll be dead for most of it.

> The issue is made even more silly by the current historical evidence
>showing that Herod the Great died in 3BC and since Jesus was born during
>his reign, the current year is really 2003 or possibly 2004. Suffice to
>say that this is the year in which the vast majority of people have chosen
>to celebrate the new millenium, and that their choice is as correct as any
>other. I choose to join them.

        There's that too. I recently read a tract by a fundementalist Christian who was engaging in the most insane mental contortions to prove that Jesus was really born in 1 AD and so this really was the turn of the Millenium (ignoring the calendrical problem stated above), so Jesus really was going to return. Sigh.

        Returning this whole discussion to Glorantha, how do Gloranthans count? Do most Gloranthans have a concept of zero? Obviously the Lunars do, since they have a Zero Wane, but somehow I doubt that the Sartarites really use the idea (given that none of the analagous RW cultures for them had the concept). What about the Malkioni and Kralorelans?

        How would the concept of zero translate into Gloranthan terms?

Andrew E. Larsen


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