Re: Magic

From: David Cake <dave_at_starfish.net.au>
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:26:43 +0800


>However, Greg seems to indicate that pure magic is more
>powerful, while mixed magic is more adaptable. I'm trying
>to find Glorantghan evidence for this...

        Except Greg makes such pronouncements, then immediately begins contradicting them. For some reason, major traditions keep getting special dispensation (the Lunars and the Orlanthi, anyway), leaving the 'pure magic more powerful' rule being observed more in the breach than the actuality. I think its a post facto intellectual theorisation rather than something actually observed in Glorantha generally.

        Personally, I think this 'pure magic is more powerful' stuff is nothing but Malkioni propoganda, as they seem to be the only major culture that actually relies on pure magic. Gregs been listening to those damn Return To Rightness crusaders again.

>I think the muxed mystic traditions are rather
>weak magically, as mysticism abjures all magic use.

        I think the mixed mystic traditions are generally pretty fine. Orthodox mysticism abjures all magic use, but the mixed traditions are (probably without exception) manifest mystics, seeking some unification with the world, including the magical world. Some of the mixed mystic traditions are

>Martial
>arts is not necessarily a mixed tradition btw, the first
>martial artist, Darja Danad, was a mashunasanic monk for
>example.

	I think most modern martial arts schools are mixed.
	One of the reasons I think this is because I can't see a way to
make purely mystic martial artists anything other than unplayably dull magic wise under the current rules.

        There are other, more Gloranthan, reasons though. The Kralorelan martial artists schools have some connections to the original animist magics of Kralorela, which is one of the reasons why so many Kralorelan martial arts styles are animal based.

        I think that they generally Integrate impersonalised spirits of principles (such as stasis, separation, movement), though sometimes elements or animals. It is regarded as a spiritual error by Orthodox purists, but by the manifest martial artist it is regarded as a magical continuation of their program to master their body, and through it the world, freeing their mystic spirit from worldly concerns.

Bryan
>Do all Malkioni who have Saints worship them? That is, do none of them
>venerate their Saints without paying them worship, or is that distinction
>lost on people?

        Well spotted. Orthodox Malkioni venerate rather than worship (theist sacrificial worship) their saints. The question of what henotheists such as Stygians, Aeolians, etc do is (historically, at least) a bit murkier.

	Cheers
		David

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