Yurts!

From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph_at_bigfoot.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:22:04 +1200


Graham Robinson:

>Me>Yurts and their contents themselves cannot be easily tossed onto a horse
> >and ridden away.

>Yes they can

Odd. One would have thought they had to be taken down first and then packed away. Most horse's backs are not big enough to accommodate a Yurt that has been tossed on them.

> >Perhaps you ought to look at Praxian Housing on p12 of the Players
> >Book: Genertela where it makes the distinction between house tents
> >(everything is unpacked for stays of more than a week in one area)
> >and travel tents (smaller, less comfortable, defensible etc).

>So what?

Try reading the next few sentences and find out.

> >The
> >Pentans will have similar living arrangements and thus to suggest
> >the Pentans can toss everything and ride away at all times is just
> >plain silly.

>If the Pentans live in Yurts - which has a real meaning

Then perhaps you better give us the benefit of your pedantry for in this thread, we have already been given two radically different meanings of a Yurt. FWIW by the more linguistically correct definition that I've seen, your definition is completely and utterly wrong.

>- then they DO NOT
>live in similar conditions to the Praxians.

Yes, they do. They are nomads living in harsh terrain and they have mobile housing.

>Yurts are specifically designed to be quickly moved. In the real world
>a yurt and it contents can be packed and ready to move in well under
>an hour.

So "tossed on a horse and ridden away" really meant something like "packed and ready to move in well under an hour"? With such loose definitions on your part, why can you not expand those definitions just a little further to accommodate my statements and save yourself the hassle of disagreeing?

>If this is not true of
>your Pentans, they do not live in Yurts - find another word.

Are you speaking of English Yurts or Mongolian Yurts?

> > The CharUn horses are not in the same position [as Spanish Horses]
> >as they are bred for things meat food, milk, draft and carriage.
> >Under such circumstances, you will tend to get a diversification of
> >specialized types just like you do for _cattle_.

>Specialisation is a relatively modern concept - it was not found amongst
>the various steppe nomads in the real world, who could happily ride and
>bleed the same horses.

But those steppe nomads herded cattle, wheres the CharUn do _not_. Therefore the CharUn are obliged to specialize their horses, which contrary to your statement is not a modern concept.

> The only horses that were not suitable for riding
>were used for meat, not kept with the herd.

And where did the nomads store these meat horses when they weren't hungry if they didn't keep them with a herd?

>At the end of the day, Peter seems to want his CharUn not to be Mongolian
>style steppe nomads,

The Pentans are not Mongolian style Steppe Nomads, according to statements by both Greg and Sandy. Huns might be a more appropriate parallel but strict parallels with the Huns or any other RW steppe nomads are inappropriate for the CharUn because none of them had any taboos about cows.

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