Re: marrying the FHQ

From: David Dunham <dunham_at_pensee.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:58:38 -0700


Back in February, Jane Williams wrote

>I understand it, the whole point about marrying
>the FHQ to become KoDP is to become the husband/protector of the
>incarnation of the Earth of the lands you are trying to rule. Just as
>Yelm did, just as Orlanth did. Quite similar to the Counts of Sun
>County "marrying" the river spirit.
>
>The incarnation of the Earth powers is the FHQ. Not the King of the
>Grazers. I'm not too sure what, if anything/one he's an incarnation of,
>but Earth ain't it. (The Sun?)
>
>So, a female who wants to be KoDP has a problem, as marrying
>someone the same gender as yourself is tricky.
>
>My suggested solution to this is a proxy.

I didn't think proxies were a very dramatic solution in KoDP, and I don't think it's what's Kallyr (or Argrath) did.

Be a bit less literal in your symbolism -- Sartar's original marriage is not only the union of two warring people, the joining together of civilization and nomads, or the blessing of sovereignty on a king (*not* becoming protector of the lands IMO). It's also an alliance between two different elements (just as Orlanth married Ernalda and became king of the gods). If Kallyr married the Luminous Stallion King, it's a marriage between Air and Fire, certainly a New Thing and worthy of a Queen of Dragon Pass.

>Dave's solution, from the look of my one win in a long game of "KoDP",
>is for the female king to make *herself* the Earth incarnation, and
>marry the King of the Grazers almost as an afterthought.

Robin's solution, not David's, but in the game, the two versions of the scene are a test to gain the blessing of Kero Fin:

M: The god-talkers said that it was time to mate with Kero Fin. F: The god-talkers said that it was time to become the daughter of Kero Fin.

And it's still marriage to the leader of the formerly-hated Horse Spawn (oops, I mean Grazers) that's critical, not some magic ritual on top of the mountain.

David Dunham <mailto:dunham_at_pensee.com> Glorantha/RQ page: <http://www.pensee.com/dunham/glorantha.html> Imagination is more important than knowledge. -- Albert Einstein


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