It's just contradiction!

From: Carl Fink <carlf_at_panix.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:04:03 -0400


In this group, I bet everyone recognizes my quote.

Alex Ferguson <abf_at_cs.ucc.ie> wrote:

> So do I. At least, the self-contradiction would be better kept down
> to a dull roar. Contradiction between _different_ pieces of literature
> (such as Lunar POV vs. Orlanthi POV) I see not problem with.

Please. If the game writings about Orlanthi and Lunars aren't part of the same piece of literature, you're torturing that term beyond bearing.

And no, no size accelerator makes the quantum, or relativity, self-contradictory. I have no idea what you're talking about. The "many worlds" interpretation of Wheeler doesn't contradict anything I'm aware of.

> If they're doing so in a strong sense of the word 'together' (in
> such a way that their perceptions are necessarily identical, or
> nearly so. . .

The three of them combine the Malkioni power of flight, the Yelmic power of levitation, and the Orlanthi power of, well, flight to rise directly from Dragon Pass through the Middle Air to the Sunpath, then wait for the Sun to move past them and look at it, while standing next to each other.

It would be a type of "move beyond the bounds of the Lozenge" heroquest, but in an unusual direction. They could also sail to one of the Sun's Gates, of course.

> Score a big enough success in imposing your perception on the other
> two, and not only do they see the sun _that_ way, but (for a
> sufficiently high degree of success) that viewpoint may be
> permanently imposed on them, _completely_ screwing up at least part
> of their own way of viewing the world.

Wow, so you *concede* that the Sun doesn't have a "real" nature that can be counted on? You think that the nature of the Sun depends on what you're expecting to see?

> But I'm sure I (and come to that, Greg) have given essenttially this
> answer before, so evidently it's non-good in some respect that escapes
> me for the moment...

It turns Glorantha into a tissue of the dreams of mortals. - --
Carl Fink carlf_at_dm.net
I-Con's Science and Technology Programming <http://www.iconsf.org/>


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