Hell, Mystical Enlightenment and East

From: Terra Incognita <inarsus-ferilt-z_at_mrg.biglobe.ne.jp>
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 02:00:22 +0900


Hellish State of Mind

"All of you should abandone any hope after entering this Gate"(Dante Alighieri, Divine Comedy)

Gloranthan Hell is special circumstance for God Learnish One Other Side in HW Game Condition, Shared Stage of Three Otherside (Spirit, Theist and Sorcery) exists as Surface Mundane.
(I don't know why only underworld is special for Gaming Terms and Pracitical
Terms)
In nonmagical terms, Uz came Hurtplace from Depth with wondering requires Thousand Generations for opening Hell Crack Stairway of Pent, they can eat Soil and digesting to Shit (Horrible Scheme) of Mountain, they fought Guardians of Spike (True or False Clay Mostrali and Krashitide) How we can examine depth of this another hemisphere? Mostali know Immortality to make Tunnels for their World Machine and Krashitide have Body suitable for Digging Mother of Earth. What is Merit of Uz and thier Darksense? (If Ancient Tunnels of Pre-Human God Age Ant? existed before these Existence, Uz may win...)

Underworld Concept before Zoroasterian, Babylonian imagined grayish sterile, ash Land of Dead as mach as seen in Earthsea Deadland of LeGuin, but once Concept of Sin and Guilty appeared in the scheme of religious World, many Sadistic and Masochistic Idea (maybe suppresses Only Sexual impulse) made piercing, Inferno Fire and Frost Sword Mountain in that Land.

Book of Drastic Resolution Darkness consumed Most of Pages to Uz Source as Native Species of Underworld and Last Page of that from View of Underworld Native
Trolls partioned Underworld Earth, (Water) and Darkness Realm to 7 For Uz, they view Underworld as Ancient Native Land as Deadland before Womb Eater collapsed and dramatically made the Whole of World upside-down. In this view, Underworld is the accurate mirror of Surface World and has same Mass and Size of Another Half hemisphere of the Vault which is thrived many Underworld Planets and Stars as Shargash who has many chance to appear other Half Semisphere but they are never seen from Dwellers of Surface World. Hero Planes are very ambiguous domain for they don't have clear Limits.

To see Dara Happan Underworld, Glorious Reascent of Yelm from "Enemy Eye"
(Worshippers of D'Wargon (Womb Eater)) saw 4 Stages of Underworld: they can
be connected in Topological Sense to Uz and Orlanthi Hero Realms.

For Example, First Stage of Hell is Domain of Netta (Night Goddess), it can involved Orlanthi LQ Quest Route Underworld Part of Obsidian Palace 
(Lightbringers visited this place in Old Version quest of Wyrms Footprint)
In Uz Research System, River of Styx (Halfdead Waertagi and her legion of reprisal to Oathbreaker wandering)
, God Learnish Earth Realm are involved to Upper Area 1 or 2, and I guessed Krashitide and Mostali didn't live Deeper Area, Gloranthan Earth goes to Colder Area as Deeper while Real World Underworld Earth contains Heart of Heat, Mantle and Core.
(Wonderhome is maybe vere favorable Place for Uzuz Race, Himile Area) Maybe
Lodril exist in Heat Place, but Depth never know Existence of Human Dead (Ty Kola Tek,
Asrelia and/or Veskerele.)

In Godlearnish Worldview, they saw their world with familiar to Wyrms Footprint Five Elements Stage Generation and Stratum, Shapeless Darkness rose from Chaos in non Magical and non Four Dimensional worldview (But nevertheless we cannot expect such system in Glorantha), Neverending Sea wides from Center to Flatline (Sramak River may be manifestation of Styx River in Surface World, Lozenge of Earth (maybe it was Imadsalash or Spike placed in Center) also rose from Sea as 8 sided Regular Octahedron topped to summit, Second Area is Area of Faceless God in Dara Happa, Sea inner of Broken Spike maybe cover the Middle Area. (But Celestial Sphere covered Limited Area, Magic alway workout Solution of Inconsistency, Dawn Gate and Evening always exists in Pseudo-Einsteinic Relativity.

Hall of Ty Kola Tek is Earth Realm Pantheon, Human lives from Age of Green Age at least in Pelanda(but some humans lives from Golden Age or Storm Age, more Later Age as Dara Happan and Agimoli who created from their favorite Pantheon) But Elder Races know more Older Ages and if it required, they can go to Sea Age and Pre-Darkness Age before Man Rune created as Some Species of Element.

Deshkorgos Worship is Spotlit in Herowars Narrator Rules while Carmanian while situation of Deshtralas of Carmanian have much similarity to attitude of Lodril
(or VisaruDalan, Turos),

Third Area of Dara Happan Hell is most Deepest deadland of Human Theistic Culture,(Tartaros?) But Uz Ancient Kingdom is more deeper Area.

Before Malkionism coming to Pelanda, Evilgod GanEstoro also live in this scheme, but if topology means something in Magical Glorantha, Ganesatarus Demonic Pandemonium appears more Sophisticated Version. Perhaps Agonizing Hell of Rokaric Devil exists near Areas. (Some Shadow of Sorcery Plane)

Hanloo Plain of Yelm is Fifth Area of Uz, Dara Happan may see it as Hall of Bijiif, perhaps Orlanth saw this place in Mirror of his Lightbringers Quest, any shadows of Near Other Side of Neighboring Country shades to another. Wonderhome Previously existed this Place. And Jokbazi, Zorak Zolan, Humakt or Wachaza maybe make contract Guarding border of Law and Chaos and their Bloodthirsty Warriors make Neverending War with Chaos Monsters, Dark Eater, Sberie, Hall of Death exists in Deepest Area of Glorantha (Or Top of Hemisphere of Upside-Down Vault?)

Mysticism

In order to sense of stating and classification, it is general theory to slighting Mundane World Resources and Seeking of Higher Mind State started from India, even Greek famous philosophers such as Pythagoras, Socrates, etc... whether it is true or false for scientific surgery of Students.

In Glorantha, some of states of mind is required and should be learned from regular condition, (I haven't finished reading about Patanjali yet) for gaining Mystical Power and reaching for mundane suffering for Living, and Vithela is Gloranthan India for understanding metaphysics. Worldview Terms and Teachers of Many Sects to spiritual status and fighting for their own righteousness and property. (Orthodox Mysticism can be principle, but real life, policy and sheepskin of Wolf still needs "Mercy" of subcult-like Manifest Mysticism to Ordinary People. Transcendence
(Durapdur) versus Almighty (Atrilith))

Some of Other Places left from Vithlan Circumstance, Lunar Empire and other religion gaining Mystical Power in HW rules required similar mind status.

As most popular and known world of Glorantha, Lunar Empire and their own principle faction known as "Order of the Day" teaching "Illumination" hinted some familiarity to Eastern Philosophy got their great power beyond their tradition for conquest and Lunar Academy of Magic combined different types of Magic into One Great War Machine with their "Chaotic" Way, They traced Nysalorian History, in addition to they have some notable understanding for Examining Generic Glorantha as same as Godlearners.

Some of Pelorian Ancient Religion before Broken Council also have similar legends for mystical Enlightenment, religious pelorian generosity (it has rarity in general Gloranthan condition except Ancient Day Orlanthi and Cruel Superficial Scietists GL) Such Existence "Rashorana" Dayzatarian, Mountain Sages of Jernotius are insisted as Lunar Source while for Some Other Lunars as only Lunatic, Blue Moonie Crazyness or Chaotic Pocharngism.

In Vithela, Greg Stafford current working for this Area taught his Mystical Feeling derived from Patanjali Yoga Working (I have been reading and not finishing it yet.)
And Some Status of Mind explained in One Word such as "Stillness" ,"Frenzypeace", "Immotion", "Liberation" and some classification reckoning of Manifest and Orthodox Sects. Eastern Mystics complexed the Importance of Balance and Losing it means corrupting to Antigod Status and Bounded to Temptation (Seduction is maybe Darjiinian Words for Nysalorian State?) but in Gaming Terms, it doesn't mean weaking in Power (but Players should give up controlling his character as Call of Cthulhu Eternal Madness Status SAN 0 or
Vampire Masquerade fell to Beast Humanity 0, so Sheng Seleris irregular volunteers may not become Hero Wars Character in Normal Gaming Status.)

But it maybe simply mean moving from One Mystical Sect to Another and they are
called "Heretical Antigodhood" blamed from other sects. (If it is true, Antigod Status doesn't exist.) Game cannot express Adherence to Player Seeking.
Dream Magic also need some State of Mind called as "Enlightenment" to use their magic with some similarity to Animism Conjuring Other World Entities.

IMHO, RW Mysticism often came to Western Gnosticism as one of popular RW Connection between Gnosistism and Fundamental Hinduism can applied to more World Cultivating: Once Carmanian and Arkati might differentiate between Geist (Vyter?) and Body for their bitterness to confronting against too strong Enemies (see Last Page of Enclosure 1 : Evil Demiurge Ialdabaoth is Godlearnish (Humane?) Invisible God and Sophia Kyger Litor? can become Sophia
of Preloma World in the Material World,

To Peter Metcalph:
I have many Stock of Questions and Answers between you and Whose Name means Ignorant, (they are limited to Gloranthan Religion and Political connection of
Adjoining Lands without some exception.) How I can save it from Time Abrasion? If I can make decision about it....


End of The Glorantha Digest V8 #98


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