Fanatics

From: Peter Larsen <plarsen_at_gslis.utexas.edu>
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 17:48:48 -0600


Peter Metcalfe says:

>If it is cottage production, then it's not going to be enough
>to satisfy the demands of the Empire. I think that the Empire
>would be most likely to get was from its own apiarists and
>doesn't have the strength to menace Dagori Inkarth.

        Well, OK; I wasn't invested in that idea anyway....

>Simply because they [Gorakiki worshippers]are happy to sell the produce of
their
>charges does not mean that they will sell it to all comers
>or conform to modern mercantile standards. The only known
>place near the Bee tribe where such methods are practiced is
>Grubfarm.

        No, I wouldn't imagine that "modern mercantile standards" exist in Glorantha; it's one reason I don'r want the mostali to be little 19th Industrialists.

>>Although, there are so
>>many bizarre European sects in the 14th C, it seems a pity not to adapt
>>them -- flagellents,
>
>Already in there as the World of Losers movement (worshippers of
>Arkat the Martyr (Glorantha Intro p60).

>>the Brethern of the Free Spirit,
>
>Perhaps the City of Ebbeshal in Fonrit which:

        Maybe (and an angle I hadn't thought of), but one of the things I find interesting about the flagellents, the Brethern, and the Franciscans (and their brothers the Fratricelli) was the way that their creeds slopped over into political action, the desire for a New Jerusalem made flesh that bust into startlingly effective (and bloody) revolution in a couple of pplaces (Munster and Bohemia come to mind). I see this in Ralios but not necessarily in the rest of the West (athough the Kingdom of War is a nasty as Munster, which makes Pol Pot's Cambodia look restrained).

>>the Lollards....
>
>Not really so bizarre but protestants ahead of their time.

        Bizarre enough for the West I'd think: a vernacular Abiding Book? Think of the fuss....

>Ralios already has even more bizarre cults, such as the Borists
>and the Chaos Monks.

        This is why Ralios is more interesting to me than the rest of the West together (a matter of personal taste, I admit, but a heatfelt one).

and Emmanuel Ponette says

>Thanks for the info. I thaought the Lunars were smarter than that. No
>surprise they lost the war...

        Hey now; it's a serious clash of cultures. The Orlanthi and Lunars have such a hard time with each other that there world views touch at only a few places; they don't understand each other's fundamental issues, they have trouble with each other's magic, and so on. Or, at least, that's what I think. It's a paradigm thing; they wouldn't understand.

Peter Larsen


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