Re: Umathela

From: David Dunham <dunham_at_pensee.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:44:45 -0800


Peter Metcalfe replied to me:

> >I believe the Vadeli have political influence, but no cultural.
>
> Why wouldn't the Vadeli would teach evil, twisted cults to corrupt
> the hearts and minds of innocent Orlanthi-in-the-woods?

Well, they would if they could. But they have been denounced for their attempt to pass themselves off as gods. I think their attempts at corruption have been rooted out after their defeat (and I think they would have attempted to influence the coastal Malki, rather than the backwoods barbarians).

I admit I was misremembering the extent of their political influence - -- it's not just coastal, it apparently extends inland along the river. Still, the Huamaz are subject to the Woodland Judgement, i.e. the aldryami.

Jerome wrote:

> The Umathelans probably had to discover new sacred places in Umathela, where
> the Storm Gods did things indeed (the land's called Umathela after all).

Well, Greenland is called Greenland and even before the climate change that wiped out the Icelandic settlement, it wasn't very green...

> They would have discovered new myths with great local importance, because no
> Orlanthi had lived there before whereas their gods visited the place.

Yes, I think this is why their religion is so non-standard, compared to the other Orlanthi.

> When did those Orlanthi reach Umathela? The Seshnelans sent by King Nepur
> are said to be the first human settlers. Maybe they imported many Harandings
> from Slontos for the Jogrampur Project, trying to add an eigth Lightbringer.

This was well before the God Learners, it's actually at a time when the Waertagi still ruled the seas.

> But when the Orlanthi tried to perform the Lightbringer Quest, something
> went wrong, and the Lightbringers proved to be not eight, neither seven, but
> Nine!

Exactly who is a Lightbringer is sometimes vague -- is Yinkin (see Hero Wars p.65)? Also, you'll note that in the standard LBQ, the 6 go to the Underworld and find a 7th. In my Umathelan LBQ, the 6 go to the Underworld and find 3 more (who were on their own quest).

Keith Nellist wrote:

> I note that Umathela was immensely wealthy in the second age - coudl flying
> pigs be the cause?

More likely simple trade.

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