Subject: Maps of the heroplane & Short Worlds

From: simonh_at_msi-uk.com
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:44:25 -0000


Olli Kantola :

>Oh please <insert higher power here>, let there be a seminar
transcript of
>that seminar somewhere for some of us are too lacking in funding to
go to
>conventions.

I'll try and sumarise.

Greg drew a map of the relationship between the various worlds and otherworlds of Glorantha. It goes something like this (fixed space font
required ) :

   [Transcendent Realm(s)]

    ^         ^       ^
    |         |       |

 Sorcery Theist Animist
  Plane Plane Plane
    ^         ^       ^
    |         |       |
   ------ Glorantha ------
              ^
              |
          Underworld

There are more connections than shown, for example a connection from the
Underworld to the Transcendent Realm. Also, It is unclear whether there
is a single transcendent world, or several different ones depending on how
you get there.

Greg introducted the concept of 'Short Worlds', which are like the Sorcery,
Theist and Animist otherworlds, but lack a connection to the transcendent
world (and are limited - hence 'short). Dream worlds are examples of short
worlds, although apparently one sect of eastern mystics do apparently use
their dream worlds as a route to transcendence.

One example of a short world that Greg seemed to like (*modest cough*) was
the otherworld of a manufactured god such as Zistor. Short worlds can be
usefull hiding places or refuges, and might contain remnants of lost empires from previous ages. Perhaps Brithos was removed to a short world?
As a result it would not be accessible from 'other' otherworlds.

It was pointed out that this terminology isn't strictly necessery, but I think it's usefull to draw a deistinction between otherworlds with a transcendent aspect and those without.

Simon Hibbs


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