>>But I'm not sure the priests, sorcerors, and shaman who interact
>>with this Univeral Uleria would recogize the unity of their "deity." Peter
>>Metcalfe may be right, "Universal Orlanth" (who is Air) may exist,
>
>Not may, is :
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>As I understand it, any interaction with Air, even building a windmill,
>is a worship of Orlanth.
>This is because Orlanth is a Great God aka holder of Primal Rune.
OK, fine, but I don't think you'll get worshippers of the gods admitting that. My point here is not what is Cosmically True, but what the majority of people in theist Glorantha think.
Persumably worship of Doburdun is not "nourishing" to Orlanth (or does it really badly), or it wouldn't be doing the Lunars any good.... I can't imagine that the Lunars would set out to drive Orlanth from the Middle Air if it couldn't be done.
>>From the point of anyone except the divine Narrator (and the
>>posters on the list), this is the most insane speculation.
>>Even the Disciples of Orlanth know who they worship, and it's Orlanth.
>
>Well I think that it is true for a backcountry Carl but I don't think so
>for Kallyr or Argrath. Those who wandered enough in the Otherworlds
>will guess it.
Argrath hardly counts as a "regular Joe Orlanthi." Kallyr is pretty special, too, although there's no evidence that I can think of that she was a particularly spectacular heroquester (she was no slouch, but not a nut like Argrath or the Godlearners). The vast majority of Yelm and Elmal worshippers (in my opinion) see a sharp distinction between them, whether they are all one on some level or not. And by vast majority, I mean nearly all priests, sages, heroes, etc. This isn't a cult secret; it's a hidden side of the universe, the Gloranthan equivalent of 10 dimentional super-strings....
Nick Eden says:
>My gut feeling is that there can't be any Vingan clans out of pure
>pragmatism. If the clan is dominated by women who put aside their
>sexuality (or at least roles as mothers) in favour of fighting, then
>where does the next generation come from?
OK, Vinga isn't a great god; I've got no beef with that. (would that phrase have a different meaning for Heortlings? May you want to have beefs with things...).
Peter Larsen
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