Re: Great Gods

From: Joerg Baumgartner <jorganos_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 16:23:01 +0200


Peter Metcalfe replying to Keith Nellist:

>Orlanthi: Orlanth (Storm), Ernalda (Earth), Humakt (Death),
>Chalana Arroy (Fertility),

Orthodoxically (GL) CA has Harmony...

This was a hotly debated topic about 18 months ago, and in the Uleria non-debate again. For the Orlanthi, Fertility is mostly covered in Earth, with a series of husband contributions from all the other elements (including Argan Argar in unorthodox clans and tribes).

>Eurmal (Illusion or Disorder),

I agree with this deviation from the GL order of Runic associations. Who's Bolongo anyway?

>Mastakos/Larnste (Mobility).

A bit bold, but again I agree. Even though Sartar shouldn't be considered connected to Mastakos IMO.

Three Lightbringers covered, three more to go (Ginna Jar as Mystic Principle excluded... maybe Flesh Man as Animist as well?)

>Teshnos: Somash (Fire), Solf (Male Earth), Furalor (Death),
>Calyz (Man)

>Comment: Zitro Argon (Truth) is solely reachable through mysticism
>so he's not a Great God. Furalor has a death rune yet her cult
>is different from Humakt's and hence I inclined to make her a
>different aspect of death.

Apart from her fire nature, Furalor appears to be "Death as gate to the next life", much like Ty Kora Tek/Asrelia. I'm a bit uneasy about making all known Teshan deities Great Gods - what is it that the Teshnans know "better" than the rest of the world?

And if Solf is Male Earth, Black Sun might as well...

>>Mostali - Mostal

>Mostal (Stasis). I think there's a connection between the
>Decamony to the Powers, thus Iron (Death), Tin (Life), Gold
>(Truth), Quicksilver (Movement), Diamond (Law/Perfection)
>but this exercise leads to procustean judgements and it's far
>better to acknowledge that the connections are imperfect.

Also, including Diamond and Iron makes that ten powers... Silver might be Illusion (temporal reality), but what's Disorder?

And anyway, these would be the cultural aspects of the Greater Principles. The Original Mostali and the Celestial Court (sort of) coexisted, so I hesitate to identify them too closely.

>>Westerners - Malkion

>Zzabur (Magic), Zoamalos (Beast) from Anaxial's Roster,
>Malkion (Law). Many names are so far unknown or unpublished
>and some of the known names (Ehilm, Worlath etc) are False
>Gods. I do think that Caste Founders (Zzabur, Horal etc)
>are the equivalent of Great Gods with Hrestol (Knighthood)
>being a historical addition.

Once again, these would be the cultural aspects of the greater (transcendend) truths. In which way is this different from Heler (water) or Elmal (sun) to the Orlanthi?



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