Peter Metcalfe to Alex Ferguson's:
>>Orlanth/Shargash
>Different deities, easily. The locations of Orlanth on the
>God plane are radically different from Shargash's locations.
So is the Storm Village from Ernalda's Earth Palace for the uninitiated. Otherwise this would be a "proof" that Orlanth's Hall is in the Underworld "since it's next to Ernalda's Palace".
Perhaps more telling are the different celestial bodies - but then Sh'Hakarzeel is present in the River and in Orlanth's Ring, too.
>Furthermore the equation Orlanth = Shargash really only appears
>as a Dara Happan slur rather than an authentic example of
>mythological confusion.
(A slur to whom, by the way?)
>>Humakt//Shargash
>Different deities, as explained in digests passim. Can
>also use the different places on the Godplane as evidence.
All three of them are candidates for Rebellus Terminus. Tolat has no such connection known to me, ZZ does.
>>Tolat/Shargash
>Same deity, even their runes are the same.
Zorak Zoran/Shargash ?
Or possibly Zolan Zubar/Shargash
>>Dendara/Entekos
>Same deity (although two different aspects).
My main contention is the earth/fire big one.
Turos/Solf
Veskarthan/ViSaruDaran
Monster Man/Deshkorgos
Mohenjar/Calyz
And to cross worlds:
Balumbasta/Lodril/<the almost-quenched origin for the walls of Sog City I forgot>/<whatever husband for Ashgortek the trolls have>
Gerendetho/Genert
Turos/Genert
etc ad infinitum for the various earth kings with not so evident sky connection.
>>Ernalda/Oria
>As I've pointed out to Chris Lemens, I think they are the
>same deity but the fact that they have different runes
>(Ernalda has the Square earth rune while Oria has an upside
>down Triangle, inverse mountain, with a line through it)
To be blunt: pubic lips. Which indicates quite clearly what Oria is about, and that's not so much earth but fertility.
One might say Esrola/Oria...
>means that this identity is far from certain. In any case,
>the lack of certainty about Oria is solely caused by published
>evidence to date - it is not a sign that gloranthans are
>confused about whether Oria is the same goddess as Ernalda
>or not.
The question seems to be whether they both stand for the same subset of transcendant "essence". In Oria's case, I guess it's unlimited womanhood.
>>Ernalda/Dendara
>Different deities. Ernalda is an Earth Goddess while Dendara
>is an atmospheric goddess.
That's not too clear. Ernalda/Entekos shares Earth and Lower Heavens. Her Dara Happan story is quite similar to that of Avarnia - an earth goddess lifted into the sky by help of her husband.
>>Elmal/Yelmalio.
>Different deities. Yelmalio and Elmal have different locations
>on the godplane and different runes.
Since Monrogh. Before it was possible to worship Yelmalio as Elmal. Perhaps difficult (for themselves or their neighbours) but not impossible.
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