Re: Divine identities

From: Alex Ferguson <abf_at_cs.ucc.ie>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:35:06 +0100 (BST)


Peter Metcalfe:
> Although Tolat has no known connections, that is largely a
> function of our ignorance about Tolat's myths rather than
> evidence that Tolat has no connections.

Absense of evidence is traditionally met with doubt, not with certainty that the evidence can and will be produced at some subsequent point.

> Great God: Lodril.
> Volcano Aspect: ViSauruDaran.
> Common Man Aspect: Turos
> Rebel Aspect: Monster Man.

But Turos, for example, is not recognised as or worshipped as an aspect of Lodril. He may well be a manifestation of the same power (indeed he clearly is, surely), but that's not to say he's a manifestation of _Lodril_: rather, Lodril might be argued to be the primary manifestation of that power. (We could also reopen the original bunfight as to whether Lodril is a "Greater God" in the RQ3 sense, aka whether this is a core rune/high power of Glorantha...)

> I haven't seen a myth where Ernalda shares the Lower Heavens

The "proof" to the Tarsh earth priestesses that their goddess and [insert appropriate lunar high power or manifestation here] are one must have involved some such rationalisation or demonstration. (Or worse, "mystical understanding"...)

> > >Yelmalio and Elmal have different locations on the godplane
> > >and different runes.
>
> >Since Monrogh. Before it was possible to worship Yelmalio as Elmal.
>
> I don't think so.

Since Yelmalio was "accidentally" reached by "strange" experiences during initiation to Elmal, an extremely close similarity of religious practice seems to be indicated.


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