Re: Great Gods vs. Transcendent Principles

From: Julian Lord <julian.lord_at_wanadoo.fr>
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 13:20:22 +0200


Alex: 'n' Nils :

> > Well, the High Gods are at best part of the "low transcendent" (if you
> > can stomach such a concept),
>
> I can't...

Well I can, but I suppose you'd already guessed that... ;-)

Anyways, "transcendent" and "immanent" are two terms of a dichotomy (used to conceptualise the cosmos and its spirituality), NOT a hierarchy of the Absolute versus the Mundane. The Absolute Realm is a continuum (in relation to these concepts), and the Middle World is a manifestation of Absolute Reality, only separated therefrom by the limitations of our perceptions (and the binary processes of our minds).

> > rather than being part of any Mystical
> > Ultimate, so you could argue about whether such people were "True
> > Mystics" as such.

Therefore, the High Gods actually ARE part of the Mystical Ultimate IMO.

> Wouldn't that be the line of hardcore, all orthodox practice
> mystics (liek Mashunasan) and not necessarily objectively
> true?

("orthodox mystic practices", right ?)

"objectively true" being a bit of a slippery concept in this lofty realm...

> According to Vithelan theology, the High God Oorduren _is_
> liberation. I can't see how that can not be part of the
> mystical Absolute.

Because liberation takes place within people's essences, and not in the Absolute Realm (if there is such a place) ?

Julian Lord


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