From: Peter Metcalfe <>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 20:32:41 +1300

Jerome Blondel:

> >The Vadeli kingdom is before the great darkness so working with chaos is
> >not something that the Vadeli could have been doing then.

>Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with how the Vadeli's whereabouts fit
>into the mythical sequence. (My assumption is that they tried to conquer
>the world during the lesser darkness and were defeated by the Brithini
>and Waertagi during the greater darkness).

There's several phases in the Vadeli quest for world conquest, in which they ally with increasingly worse foes. First it was the Mostali and the Malkioni of what is now Jrustela were packed off to Slon while the Genertelan Malkioni were temporarily enslaved by Nida. At the end, the Spike had exploded and the Vadeli were allying with chaos. They were only defeated when Zzabur cast the spell to sink the lands of the Vadeli.

> >Secondly although I said the Vadeli worked with chaos, it
> >doesn't mean that their lands are pits of slime or that
> >they sprout chaotic features.

>Certainly not. But unless Oabil was destroyed earlier, that's exactly
>what i thought happened there.

But I'm pointing out that this is unlikely for chaos didn't exist within the world then when Oabil was founded and destroyed. Chaos only came into the world much later with the Unholy Trio (not the Vadeli).

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