Animism

From: Jerome Blondel <bwbfc_at_yahoo.fr>
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:09:51 +0200

Joerg Baumgartner
> >Hmm. Another thing I stumbled across is the "no integration of
> >spirits for shamans" position.

Peter Metcalfe:
> I think that's no "adoration for shamans" which isn't integration of
> spirits but integrating oneself into a Great Spirit. Which has been
> raised on here but the end result is still murky.

I wonder if 'adoration' of a great spirit is not equivalent with 'integrating'* only the spirits which follow the great spirit inside the demesne... but it makes sense that an 'adorator' would not usually be able to travel outside of his great spirit's demesne (which he is integrated in), at least not without a shaman, except to follow mythic landmarks and go to heroplanes. Adoration wouldn't be compatible with spirit world travel then.

• possibly in a way that doesn't "exterminate" the individual spirits. Perhaps could be compared with collective spirits in AR p. 213 & 219. I'm curious about shamans' ability to add new spirits to their tradition. It means that no two shamans will eventually have the same traditions, although they might have societies or something similar with the same tradition. If only shamans can make people enter the spirit world, that would make them the individual sources of the demesnes for practioners to go to in rites, heroquest in, etc. The spirit world is the same, but there are as many demesnes in it as shamans. Is that plausible?

Jerome

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