> Wait a minute: he has a star = he is a star god.
> Some deities have nothing going for them except they
> are a star. Many
> others have a lot more going for them and are also a
> star.
ok.
> >Orlanth's Ring
> A unique celestial body, please note, in its
> movement.
yes, TR page 136 is a great picture!
> I think this is going a little too far. I think that
> they are much like us
> as far as weather preferences and comfort, but that
> they also enjoy a big
> rain. After all, the Yelmites do not prefer to have
> blistering hot days and
> burnt skins.
ok
> >Praxians worship great spirits and identify them
> with
> >various planet/stars (even if they are not sky
> >spirits).
>
> What does "identify" mean here? You seem to imply
> that they are not
> associated with that body in some way.
I merely reason on the nature of stars: I think ,aybe erroneously, that Stars are Star Gods and can't be at the same time Star Spirits, parts of Orlanth, pieces of Dragons. Maybe I confuse the effect (the star god) with the cause (the visible star which is "generated" by both the star god and the spirit god, for instance)
> If they worship a celestial body and receive back
> some kind of power then
> that body IS what they worship. It might be
> misapplied worship,
> misidentified, limited or exaggerated in some way.
> Just because the worshippers, or we, do not
> understand the underlying truth
> or meaning does not mean they are just "identifying"
> with it. For instance,
> the Orlanthi and Yelmite worship of Mastakos/Uleria
> seems incompatible with
> each other, yet both get true worship from it and as
> a result there is some
> underlying principle that in some manner unites both
> concepts. People just
> don't understand what it is. Nor do they need to.
ok.
> >A lot of water and dragon deities seem to be
> >associated with stars.
>
> A lot? Two major constellations are dragons, the
> River is associated with
> water, plus a few other little entities might be as
> well. I think this
> indicates that "as below, so above."
Considered the little number of Gloranthan constellations and heavenly bodies I know, two are "a lot" for me because they are 5% of the total. Maybe it's just me...
> ...I think you have erred to equate Solar with
> Stellar.
sure.
> >(are not Stars _in_ the Sky
> >Realm-otherworld
>
> The Sky World is partially in the Center World. Look
> up, there it is. Like
> huge parts of the ordinary world it simultaneously
> exists in the Otherworld
> too.
mmmmh
> >or are they _in_ the Heroplane)?
>
> The Heroplane is the "mythic past" where people can
> go to HeroQuest. I
> sense you are misunderstanding the term here,
> because of course the sky
> existed in the mythic past. And it looked different.
being the mixed nature of Time/Worlds and Ages/Places in Glorantha, I fail to see the light in what you are saying.
> >Is there a Star Uz God (shudder)?
>
> Not to my understanding. They have not been in the
> sky and they can't even
> see or otherwise sense the sky. Those who worship
surely they can see the sky because they are not blind? Or do you mean that because they didn't go there they can't perceive it?
Thanks for the replies and, BTW:
Orlanth is Dead is a shockingly beautiful publication!
Ciao,
Gian
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