Re: Glorantha digest, Vol 9 #293 - 3 msgs

From: Graeme P. Bell <graemepbell_at_compuserve.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 00:10:19 -0000

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> 1. RE: Glorantha digest, Vol 9 #292 - 2 msgs
(Bernuetz.Oliver_at_cbsc.ic.gc.ca)
> 2. Another Mini Review - Dark Ages and Lance & Laser (Roderick and
Ellen Robertson)
> 3. Turrog (Peter Metcalfe)
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> Message: 1
> From: Bernuetz.Oliver_at_cbsc.ic.gc.ca
> To: glorantha_at_rpglist.org
> Subject: RE: Glorantha digest, Vol 9 #292 - 2 msgs
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 09:58:25 -0500
> Reply-To: glorantha_at_rpglist.org
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> Greg said:
>
> >Oliver, this is great work you are doing for Glorantha.
> >Thank you.
>
> My pleasure.
>
> Oliver
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> Message: 2
> From: "Roderick and Ellen Robertson" <rjremr_at_sierratel.com>
> To: <glorantha_at_rpglist.org>,
> <Glorwar_at_yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Another Mini Review - Dark Ages and Lance & Laser
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:46:24 -0800
> Reply-To: glorantha_at_rpglist.org
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> Minis review - Lance and Laser, and Dark Ages.
> Roderick Robertson
>
> Well, yesterday was a wonderful day. Not only did I go see a midnight+1
> minute showing of The Two Towers (mixed feelings - good overall, but Eomer
> and Faramir was robbed, and we had about ½ hour of gratuitous Arwen), but
a
> box arrived with more lead goodness.
>
> Dark Ages
> The old archive figures. This is half the second offering (I reviewed the
> first half a while back).
>
> The first figure is the Water Wyrm (GLO-011). This is a large multi-piece
> casting consisting of head, chest, back, tail two wings, horns and base.
It
> is curled up something like a Seahorse, so exact size is hard to determine
> (plus I haven't glued it together.), but it stands approximately 100mm to
> the top of his head. (four times the height of a typical human figure). It
> has no arms or legs, but does have a barbed tail. The head is huge - about
> 40mm front to back, and 20mm from bottom of the jaw to the top of the
head,
> and another 5mm or so for the horns. Its mouth is slightly open, and the
> forked tongue is out tasting the air. There is a horn between the
nostrils,
> which are covered with some weird growth, or maybe foam or flame, it's
hard
> to tell. The wings are crepe-like in texture, with prominent ridges of
bone
> (which look more like bamboo, frankly). The body has prominent ridged
> scales, which makes filing mold lines more difficult. The barb on the tail
> is a similar crepe texture, which might be hair, or might be something
else.
>
> The casting is the typical rough Archive style, and from my initial
> inspection it looks like there will need to be a lot of filler and carving
> of joint areas to make the thing fit together. Mold lines are evident on
> just about all pieces, and requires filing before assembly. The back piece
> and chest piece do not match up - the chest is slightly wider than the
back
> at the join. The entire beast is supported by a single peg running from
the
> bottom of the tail into the base, except that mine doesn't fit well.
>
> I give this piece a 3 out of 10 - it's not quite a fishing weight, but
there
> are many other draconic beasties available from other manufacturers that
are
> better made, have better fit between pieces and look superb.
>
> Next up is GLO-015, Centaur with axe. He stands 35mm Hoof to Eye, but only
> about 22mm to his withers. The human body is too large for the horse (or
> pony) body, in my opinion. He is armed with a strange axe and a ornate
> crescent shield. His upper body is armored with a banded leather
breastplate
> modeled somewhat on a Greek linothorax. His (human) belly and chest are
> exposed by the armor though, so I'm not sure what use it is (for some
reason
> his back is better armored than his front). His face is badly molded,
> looking almost like a gorilla-centaur (his arms only add to the
impression).
> The mold lines on this figure are pretty much confined to the base and the
> inside of the legs (a common problem with modeling horses).
> 4 out of 10. Again, there are better centaurs out there.
>
> Grazelander Shaman (GLO-019) is next. This guy is pretty short - 23mm sole
> to eye, with a horned and fanged horse-head headdress that takes him up to
> 35mm, and his axe/mace and coup stick make him a full 45mm tall. He is
> rather American-Indian in motif, with fringed leggings, what looks like a
> beaded shirt or quill breastplate (hard to tell with the quality of the
> casting). In his right hand is a heavily-feathered coup stick (those
> shepherd crooks carried by the plans Indians), while his left holds up a
> mace/axe weapon thingy (basically, a ball with two bladed spikes coming
out
> of it - one straight up for thrusting, one at an angle for swings). A
quirt
> (riding crop) hangs from his left wrist. His belt supports a horse-tail at
> the back.
>
> Well, better overall modeling than the previous two figures, but still
> rough. A lot of vent tags need to be removed (especially from the coup
> stick) but mold lines are much less evident. 5 out of 10, maybe 6.
>
> Finally we have Ironhoof the Centaur Hero (GLO-020). Again, the human body
> seems too big for the horse body. He stands 36mm Hoof to eye, 44mm to the
> top of the crest on his helmet, and 50mm to the tip of his mace. Besides
his
> mace (which looks rather like a stylized torch), he has a medium sized
> shield with the old Chaosium Wyrm on it. His armor consists of a
breastplate
> with pteruges, a Greek-style helmet with a stuff crest and horns, and a
> thickly furred cloak flowing all the way to his tail. His right forearm
has
> a heavy bracelet - more jewelry than armor. The definition of the arms and
> hands is poor.
> 4 out of 10.
>
> Lance and Laser
>
> First up is a Yanafal Tarnils warrior (03027). He stands about 29mm S-E.
He
> is armored in a brigantine back-and-breast (leather or fabric covering
metal
> plates with the rivets showing through), shoulder pads, a riveted leather
> strip apron covering his essentials, bronze vambraces (forearm armor) and
a
> crestless Greek helmet. He wears shirt and trousers under his armor, and
> cavalry boots. His ensemble is finished by a calf-length cloak hanging
from
> the back of his shoulder pads. He carries no shield, but is ready to draw
> his sword if he needs it. His sword is straight, and looks like it is
> probably single edged (at least from the scabbard). As the definitive
"Lunar
> Warrior", it would have been nice to give him a scimitar or other curved
> sword instead of a straight one. As an aside, he wears his sword on his
> right side, rather than the left, making his draw rather awkward (the
Romans
> wore their shortswords on the right, but there is a big difference between
a
> 20 inch blade and a 30 0r 36 inch one when trying to draw it.). His left
> hand is out either patting a child on the head, or making a "forward"
motion
> to his squadmates.
>
> He has light mold lines and a small bit of flash, but the texture is
smooth.
> The details of his armor and equipment are well picked out, and should be
> easy to paint up (unlike the Archive minis.).
>
> Next we have a sample of Dragonnewts.
> Two demibirds with riders - first is 03032 - Demibird Rider with Spear.
This
> is a two part figure, with the Demibird and the d'newt's legs in one
figure,
> and the upper body in the other. The Demibird stands 43mm S-E, and the d'
> newt's eyes are about 50mm off the ground (he stands approx. 31mm tall).
He
> carries a flint-tipped spear and a unadorned round shield, otherwise he is
> naked. At least he has a saddle on the demibird. The second is 03033
> Demibird Rider with Bow. The demibird is the same figure as in the
previous
> pack, while this rider fires a short recurve bow. Both d'newts have
> prominent crests and lightly scaled skin.
>
> A pack of three "Dragonewt Nobles" (03034). The first stands 31mm S-E,
35mm
> to the tip of his nose-horn. In his left hand he carries an egg (or
> egg-shaped object), while in his right is a chipped-flint knife. Hi crest
> flairs back from his head, like a bald man's hair. He also has a heavy
ruff
> around his shoulders and fleshy wattles under his chin. His arms are
crested
> from shoulder to wrist along the back side of the arm.
> Noble number two stands 32mm S-E, 37mm to the top of his erect crest. His
> crest runs from his nose to the nape of his neck, where it blends into his
> spinal ridge. He also has a ruff around his shoulders. Only his forearms
> have the crest. He carries a Klanth in his left hand while he attacks with
a
> chipped-flint knife in his right.
> Noble three stand 32mm S-E, 37mm to the top of his crest. His crest only
> runs from his eye ridges to his back, and his cheeks have crest-like flaps
> extending back. Completing the set of arm crests, his are only on his
upper
> arms. He holds a flint knife in his right hand low by his hip, and attacks
> with a decorated bone or wooden club in his left.
>
> All dragonewts are three-clawed on both hands and feet, have a tail that
> would come down to the ground if it wasn't curled up slightly (the riders
> have a special cutout in the saddle to accommodate the tail). Steve Lortz
> has made better d'newts than those horrid trolls of his.
>
> A monster is next - 03041 Paludal (Shark-Frog). I'm not sure where this
> thing came from - it's not in Anaxial's and I don't remember it from
> anything else (but hey, I was up until 3pm last night watching a movie.).
> This is a big sucker, hunched over it is about 35mm S-E, but it is bigger
in
> proportion than a human. The most prominent feature is its head and
> especially its wrap-around mouth. The head is wider than a sharks, but
> certainly reminiscent of one. It has no neck - the head just connects
> straight to the shoulders. I'm not sure if the arms and legs are supposed
to
> be scaled, or if rocks have adhered to the flesh to create a type of
armor.
> The creature has a tail that is certainly not that of a shark, it is
> symmetrical top and bottom, but has several lobes or protuberances on the
> flukes. There are no gills evident. Interestingly, the skin looks like it
> could be painted as an "undead" monster, as there are several places where
> it looks like there are holes in the skin where muscle can be seen (if
> painted that way.). This guy will probably end up in my chaos hordes.
> 03042 Elf Archer definitely looks like he is Meat rather than Plant. He's
> your basic humanoid (28mm S-E), with pointed ears and hair. His armor is a
> scale cuirass with leather pterureges at the shoulder and front and back
of
> the waist, leaving his thighs bare. He is firing a bow (which looks like
it
> is supposed to be twisted wood) and carries a short sword and shield for
> back-up. He has calf-high boots that look like they could be painted as
> leaves. His left forearm has a heavy vambrace, while his right wrist has a
> wide bracelet. This is basically a typical fantasy elf, rather than an
> Aldryami.
>
> Finally, we have two gals from Darsen - a swordswoman and an archer.
>
> 03043 is the archer. Her pose is awkward - her left arm with the bow is
> farther back than normal, making it look like she just loosed her arrow
> through her head. Also, she isn't looking where she is shooting.
Basically,
> it is more of the "displayed" style of L&L figures, where the molds are
made
> as flat as possible. IN this case, it isn't even possible to bend the left
> arm, as it is attached firmly to the shield on her back. Her armor is
> typical fantasy stuff, and doesn't cover what really needs to be covered
> (like her chest below the throat, or her midriff). She wears a scale
> midriff-baring top cut low over her breasts, shoulder armor, a leather
strip
> skirt with armored rear panel (hey, it was sculpted by a man). Her left
> forearm is protected by a bow guard, and her right by an unadorned
bracelet.
> She wears no helmet or leg coverings, but does have soft leather boots
tied
> on. She has a long sword and shield as backup weapons. She suffers from
"Big
> hair" which should be getting in her face, because it isn't tied back in
any
> way. Maybe they don't have wind in Darsen.
>
> 03044 is the swordswoman. At least her armor covers more. It still leaves
> her bare from the top of her breasts to her throat, but the rest of her
> torso is covered by plate armor. Her left leg has a heavy greave with a
> flair above the knee, while her right leg has a smaller greave and strip
> thigh armor. On second thought, her left leg may just have an
above-the-knee
> boot. Which would be silly, as you ant to armor the left (forward) leg
> rather than the right one normally. Her right arm has either a
> heavily-decorated vambrace, or a chain mail one. Her skirt looks like
fabric
> panels front and back, with three thin strips (of leather?) on either
thigh.
> Her left arm is unarmored, but is behind her shield, so doesn't need it as
> much. Again, no helmet, but at least her hair is restrained by a headband.
>
> Both gals stand approx 26-27mm S-E.
>
> All the L&L figures were reasonably well cast, with some faint mold lines
> and flash, but nothing figure-wrecking. All get a 7 or 8 out of 10.
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:56:52 +1300
> To: glorantha_at_rpglist.org
> From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph_at_quicksilver.net.nz>
> Subject: Turrog
> Reply-To: glorantha_at_rpglist.org
>
> Terra Incognita:
>
> >And in the cult write-up of yours and your friends' in Enclosure Fanzine,
> >Turrogus is a Hero "who raided Teshnos and Kralorela". I vaguely imagined
he
> >was a general of Castokum. But I noticed that Turrog was "Burst" of Sheng
> >Seleris in your tale above, if he was the contemporary of Sheng. Perhaps
he
> >attacked East with the horde of Seleran Empire in your setting. But IIRC,
> >Peter Metcalph might believe that Sheng and all of his following demigods
> >are destroyed after the Battle of Kitor and subsequent purges to Pentan
> >Overlords. And it seems it contracts to the setting of the passage that
> >Turrog was against the power of Sheng, doesn't it?
>
> There is a period of fifty-four years between Sheng's defeat at Kitor
> and the final defeat of the Pentans at the Nights of Horrors. Hence
> Turrog's career doesn't look implausible to me.
>
> --Peter Metcalfe
>
>
>
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