Great discussion on the word histories here.
>I think we should more speculate scandinavian
>influence about this topic as
>Greg himself is greatly influenced by the imagery
>of Stanford Bridge and
>Harald Hardrada.
Harald Hardrada is my third favorite viking. He's got a great saga, is documented in historical data, and is superman in every way. Several sagas also hinge on his life.
The language that I used for these ranks is derived from images of the word, not the words themselves. As someone else pointed out, there is not historical chronology to link these Gloranthan culures. The medeval Malkioni are not later developments of the barbarian ethos.
>> Now, to get this back on topic for this list, the
>>logical source for the
>> Orlanthi High Nobility titles would be Umath's
>>Camp or Vingkot's range
>> of companions, right?
Actually, in their progeny. In the Vingkot Age the gods and mortal separated into distinct classes of beings. At the start they are indistinguishable. The Age is a long story of the long distinguishing between them.
>As I last mentioned in my post of Heortling
>kingship:
>Martin Laurie seems to assume that originally
>Vingkotling appointed
Martin is right on this.
>...we don't
>know enough about Vingkotling Age. For example,
>from Vingkot to Heort, there
>is only seven generations. (Enclosure)
>But Ivarne was imprisoned in Ice Tomb over 100
>Generations (Storm Tribe
>p.240),
Of couse these are both poetic truths, and neither is quite what is means to living people.
>Perhaps rationally or logically,
>royal blood maintained long
>its divinity and kings lived longer than their
>subjects and populace in
>Darkness.
Yes, and their reigns get shorter and shorter. There might be seven generations of the superhuman heroes, but Orlanth and many of his Tunderbrothers go on and on. And those poor ordinary people get diminished even faster, having a hundred generation of ordinary ppeople in the time that one superhuman demigod ruled.
Part of the irony is that these mythic dynastics may have lived longer than ordinary humans but even they, one and all, went down to Death. They ended up on the mortal side.
Greg
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