Mysticism

From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph_at_quicksilver.net.nz>
Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 23:46:34 +1200


John Hughes:

> > Tantra is not just a Hindu practice, it has a Buddhist definition (and
> > there are more Buddhist trantrists than there are Hindu) while Satori is
> > associated with Zen, not Hinduism.

>You're right of course. Tantra is associated with Diamond Vehicle Buddhism
>and Jainism as well. Each tradition has its different emphases. You didn't
>understand what I mean by Satori?

No. I was just pointing out the mistakes in your eager correction of my parenthetical gloss about Tantra since you felt it so important to have it defined correctly.

>- the Hindu term is samsara, but were the
>one who just said to avoid Indianisms.

The context in which I avoided Indianisms was in defining terms for submystical magic for HeroQuest. Given that it was meant to be a framework to support Martial Artists for _ordinary_ people to play, I do feel the avoidance of deep jargon
whether Indian (Tantra, Bhakti), Zen (Koan, Satori) or Anthropological (Aprophatic
and Katophatic) is warranted. That way people won't become lost or bored by esoteric debate on just what Tantra is.

> > Shades of your infamous espousal of etic and emic. I think it better
> > to use plainer terms even if they do not conform with anthropological
> > theory. Perhaps intelligible and unintelligible.

>Hey, lets get personal, it always ads to the quality of the discussion.
>[...] I'm out of here, saddened but resigned, just as soon as I find out
>how to unsubscribe. [Graham there's nothing on the web page about
>unsubscribing].

<Monty Python Restaurant Sketch>

Lucky I didn't say anything about the Quipu...

</Monty Python Restaurant Sketch>.

--Peter Metcalfe

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