Allfather? The last I heard, Vinga isn't Allfather at all?
> and flying up to Karulinornan with the
> other men instead of going into the earth with her
sisters?
But if you simply mean Orlanth rites in general: "Why not?" I'm not entirely sure - but since Vingan mothers exist, and you don't get much more female than giving birth, it happens.
> And why would the men accept her among them?
> >"Doing a man's job" does not mean "being a man" in
> every sense including
> >sexual, even in magical and mythical Glorantha.
> (I'll ask my husband to
> >check, but so far he seems quite convinced that,
> despite being a computer geek, I'm female.)
>
> But you weren't brought up to believe in the Storm
> Tribe religion.
Sure? :) 1960s Britain had some pretty strong biases about relating roles to irrelevant body parts, and my religious upbringing certainly wasn't Christian.
> You, on the other hand, received the call from
> Orlanthgeek, patriarch of computers - so you must
> have a male soul.
Quite possibly. But my body is female, and that's what any sexual partner needs to know about.
> Yes, I know it sounds silly (or worse) by our own
> standards; but if
> 21st century Western sexual philosophy applied to
> Glorantha then
> they'd let women just initiate to Orlanth/Destor, or
> men to Ernalda/Skovara, with no complications...
Lots of laughter here. If you think sexism is dead... ah, yes, a man. And probably a nice intelligent one.
> Slightly changing tack, I do think it might be best
> to not think in
> absolutes. All worshippers of Vinga might have
> "male souls" in some
> technical sense - and mutatis mutandis for Nandans.
> But they are unlikely to be _completely_ male.
A good point - most things in Glorantha or this world are on sliding scales.
> One could assume that Vinga (or a hero cult of hers)
> has a similar
> heroquest for women who wish to father children on
> another woman...
I wonder if there's one of those in Esrolia? Could have been useful just after Sword&Helm. Though I gather one man to about 100 women is enough to do the job...
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