Date: Sat, 27 Mar 93 17:15:07 +0100 From: RuneQuest-Request@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM (RQ Digest Maintainer) To: RuneQuest@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM (Daily automated RQ-Digest) Subject: The RuneQuest Daily, Sat, 27 Mar 1993 This digest was generated automatically. You may find messages that should not belong here, like subscription requests, etc. Sorry. You will of course send such requests to RuneQuest-Request@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM. All mail sent to RuneQuest@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM will automatically be included in a next issue. Selected articles may also appear in a regular Digest. If you want to submit articles to the Digest only, contact the editor at RuneQuest-Digest-Editor@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM. -Henk Langeveld -- Send Submissions to:Enquiries to: The RuneQuest Daily is a spin-off of the RuneQuest Digest and deals with the subjects of Avalon Hill's RPG and Greg Stafford's world of Glorantha. Maintainer: Henk.Langeveld@Sun.COM --------------------- From: jacobus@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Bryan J. Maloney) Subject: Excommunication for trivial reasons. Message-ID: <9303261833.AA11993@sonata.cc.purdue.edu> Date: 26 Mar 93 08:33:22 GMT If I may pull out a real-world similar situation: In pre-Vatican II Roman Catholicism, one could be excommunicated for not attending Mass weekly. One could be excommunicated for a LOT of things. However, such excommunications were very rarely, if ever, done. I would suspect that the "attend or go to hell" attitude is more a mechanism to control the Paeones of the cult. If a character seemed pious enough and simply could not make it to a temple, I am sure that the vast majority of priests would do their equivalent of "Say two Apostle's Creeds and drop a fiver into the Poor Box on your way out". If the absence were to be constant, or accompanied by impiety, then watch out. As for "rent-a-shrines", there is a "rent-a-shrine" in Pavis! --------------------- From: wroberts@magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William C Robertson) Subject: Re: The RuneQuest Daily, Fri, 26 Mar 1993 Message-ID: Date: 26 Mar 93 11:07:07 GMT The Mystic Musk Ox writes... Gark! Doesn't anyone play ordinary characters? You know, the ones with stats of 9-12, skills of 50%-75% and no money? When you start pushing... "Gark!" do you worship him/her/it? Chaos!!! Kill!! snort rage berserk. Sincerely, Storm Khan Thorvold --------------------- From: tzunder@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Zunder) Subject: Cult Services Message-ID: Date: 26 Mar 93 20:55:00 GMT I feel that the reasons for inactivity make a lot of difference. One can be an inactive member of a cult in RQ3, ie just not ticking over. If neglect or dispbedience then atonement may be required otherwise it'll probably be okay, especially if a dispensation was given. Rune Level characters interact with their gods on a one-one basis and will have negotiated such leave. Excommunication is for when you've been a very bad boy and they don't want you back, but not quite naughty enough to want to kill you. -------------------------------------------------------------------- tzunder@cix.compulink.com.uk "May the Red Moon Illuminate You All! -------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- From: mace@lum.asd.sgi.com (Rob Mace) Subject: Re: Holy Days and Adventuring Message-ID: <9303262208.AA28994@lum.asd.sgi.com> Date: 26 Mar 93 06:08:38 GMT > > The bottom line: > If you want to tie characters down and make them hop from temple to > temple, unable to enter foreign lands for more than a few days at a > time then you can play it that way. The impression I get is that very > few people want to play this way. Let's just assume that things get > handled in a practical and pragmatic manner in Glorantha and these > problems vanish. Well I sure did not do a very good job of explaining how we do it. In short I agree with you. The above would better read: No excuse: Lose cult status. The RQIII rules basically say that you lose cult status it you miss the holy days. I was trying to give a less restrictive rule that allowed people to travel by looking at what the needs of a Cult/God are. If you have a decent reason that you need to miss a Holy Day ritual your Cult/God should not be all that upset. They probably would like you to try harder to make the next one. If the only reason you don't show up is that you did not feel like it, I doubt your God is going to be all that pleased with you. The holy day ceramonies of a cult strengthens the cult. Worshipping a god strengthens that god. In return the god grants poweres to the worshippers. Gods need worshippers, but if a worshipper stops worshipping there is no reason for the god to keep giving that worshipper power. So they lose cult status. Anyway using this type of interpretation we have never had a problem with not being able to travel in our campaigns. > The cash problem: where does cult money go? Is far more interesting. > I have always had my way of doing things, not necessarily the same as > the examples above, probably not the same as yours. How do you do it? Cult money can go to a lot of places depending on the Cult. Here are a few. Gaurds (Not all cults are warrior cults) Buildings (Both construction, and upkeep) Everyday items (Food, clothing, pots, pans, furniture, etc.) Cerimonial items (Alters, icons, cerimonial robes, etc.) Hired help (servants, cooks, scribes, etc.) Armory Politics (depending on cult and location) Buying anything else the temple needs. Some of this would be done on a non-cash barter basis. In cults that give half price or free training we have the recipients of the training spend time doing cult work in exchange for the cheap training. Cults will also often exchange thier specialty. A Humakt temple might have some of its members stand gaurd at the local Chalana Arroy Temple, since they know that the Chalana Arroy Temple will heal their members if needed. The same Humakt temple might have a contract to provide gaurd service to a Lankor Mhy Temple in exchange for knowledge and scribe work. Rob Mace