(Message rqd:4)
Return-Path:
Received: from Holland.Sun.COM (sunnl) by homeland.Holland.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1)
id AA07931; Mon, 5 Jul 93 17:16:26 +0200
Received: from glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM by Holland.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1e)
id AA12946; Mon, 5 Jul 93 17:15:56 +0200
Received: by glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1)
id AA03432; Mon, 5 Jul 93 17:15:13 +0200
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 93 17:15:13 +0200
Message-Id: <9307051515.AA03432@glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM>
From: RuneQuest-Request@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM (RQ Digest Maintainer)
To: RuneQuest@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM (Daily automated RQ-Digest)
Reply-To: RuneQuest@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM (RuneQuest Daily)
Subject: RuneQuest Daily, Mon, 05 Jul 1993, part 1
Precedence: junk
Status: RO
The RuneQuest Daily and RuneQuest Digest deal with the subjects of
Avalon Hill's RPG and Greg Stafford's world of Glorantha.
Send submissions and followup to "RuneQuest@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM",
they will automatically be included in a next issue. Try to change the
Subject: line from the default Re: RuneQuest Daily... on replying.
Selected articles may also appear in a regular Digest. If you
want to submit articles to the Digest only, contact the editor at
RuneQuest-Digest-Editor@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM.
Send enquiries and Subscription Requests to the editor:
RuneQuest-Request@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM (Henk Langeveld)
---------------------
From: paul@phyast.pitt.edu
Subject: Re: RuneQuest Daily, Sat, 03 Jul 1993, part 1
Message-ID: <9307031719.AA00265@bondi.phyast.pitt.edu>
Date: 3 Jul 93 17:19:17 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 1213
> Yelm, Yelmalio, Oakfed types might build fires and stare into for visions.
^^^^^^^^
Agree on Yelm and Oakfed (and Gustbran) but Yelmalios stare into the Sun or
other heavenly light sources. He lost Fire, remember.
Yelornas read the star pattern, unlike Dayzatar they attach a lot of
importance to transient phenomena, especially meteors. A typical Yelorna
divination would be to ask a question and watch for the next meteor. "Which
way do we go?" is easy, just follow the direction. More subtle questions
are answered by things like which constellation the meteor appears in and
which one it is pointing at. (e.g. "Should I become a Unicorn Rider? might
be answered by a meteor appearing in the Love Stars and pointing at
Arkat, indicating a tall, dark stranger might preclude that option...).
Part of the magic is in the priestess' inspired interpretation of such
signs. Color and splendor may count also. A question like "Would I be a
good Shield Maiden" being answered by a spectacular shower of red fireballs
in the War Stars would be an example of an easy-to-interpret answer.
I like Boris' other examples, the afterbirth in particular. A caul
might be significant...
Response to MOB:
I like your mixed-up answers. I also like ambiguous signs. In RQ II I
think there was a POW x 5 roll for interpretation or some such. In our
main RQ II campaign we had a Lunar Priestess who used Lunar Tarot for
divination. The player would do a reading and interpret it; I would roll
secretly to see if she interpreted correctly. If she did events in the
campaign would show that her interpretation was correct. It's amazing
how little "adjusting" I had to do to make most of the readings "true".
I love the example of "There is a way in for the Air", very reminiscent of
"If Croesus crosses the Halys in arms a mighty empire will be destroyed"
(Correct me if I got the quote wrong).
Molybdomancy: Drop molten metal into water and interpret the shapes.
There is a similar method using wax.
Are Sun County's salt mines in underground deposits like those in
Eastern Europe or on the surface like the Roman mines in Libya? (The
latter is more likely I think.) In any case the workers are in for a
hard time.
>I agree with C.G. Fried's comment that there is a need for
>short, "pay 'n play" scenario books: 48 or so pages of action that
I agree also. (Finula & I are working on one on and off, when's she's not
on a dig and I'm not buried in the thesis... may take a while to complete.)
____________________________________
---------------------
From: runei@ifi.uio.no (Rune Andre Isene)
Subject: Wanted
Message-ID:
Date: 4 Jul 93 03:17:11 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 1214
i wondered if anyone have and is willing to part with the following rq stuff:
Balastor's Barracks
Apple Lane
Trolls and Trollkin
Scorpionmen and Broos
Militia and Merceneries
Cults of Prax
Foes
Gateway Bestiary
Plunder
Rune Masters
Griffin Mountain
Cults of Terror
Borderlands
Trollpak
Soloquest
Questworld
Scorpion Hall
Snow King's Bride
Runequest Companion
Broken Tree Inn
Broken Tree Inn
Hellpits of Nightfang
RuneQuest Judges' Shield
Legendary Duck Tower
City of Lei Tabor
Duck Pond
I have some of these already but in bad conditions or just parts
Anyone that has any of the above but is NOT willing to part with them..
email me and maybe i can convince you to send me a photocopy..
your stuff would be in good hands.. im a real collector :)
oh.. and any issues of Wyrm's Footnotes are intersting too!
let me know if you HAVE any of these..
thanx
.
---------------------
From: curtiss@netcom.com (Curtis Shenton)
Subject: Paul's stuff on the God Learners
Message-ID: <9307032335.AA16208@netcom2.netcom.com>
Date: 3 Jul 93 23:35:41 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 1215
Wow I love the sound of the background you have for the God Learners.
just what were the methods of the Jrusteli rebels? And what is this
Net/Web you mentioned? It sounds like some sort of subway system through
the Hero Plane, which is quite an interesting idea, very God Learnerish.
On the subject of God Learners has anyone actually ever used the
Secret? As far as I know only Ralzakark is know to still know the
Secret. Has anyone come up with an actual secret for this? In fact has
Greg ever hinted at it(I assume not, it seems like the whole point is
that it's a secret and creating one would ruin the mystery)? Finally
does anyone know if the God Learners were illuminated? It seems like
many of them would be, but perhaps they just didn't need that world veiw
to do what they did.
--
Curtis Shenton curtiss@netcom.com internet & 4@3091 WWIVnet
"At the GM's option, strategic nuclear weapons may be considered
'magical'"-From the CyberCthulhu rules in Interface
---------------------
From: gadbois@cs.utexas.edu (David Gadbois)
Subject: Origins '93 trip report
Message-ID: <9307050900.AA22153@muleshoe.cs.utexas.edu>
Date: 4 Jul 93 23:00:32 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 1216
Origins 1993 was held on July 1-4 in Fort Worth, Texas. Avalon Hill
was there with their RQ products and Chaosium let me sell Tales at
their table. There were only 10-20 RQers at the cons, which meant I
had Stafford almost all to myself. (Tips for getting Stafford
talking: Plant yourself in the nearest bar, wait for him to show up
(he always does), buy him a few drinks, and ask a few leading
questions like, "What's the deal with this Elaml/Yelmalio thing
anyway?")
Greg had a rough draft of about 100 pages of his new book. Further
work on the book will be delayed due to an unfortunate shopping cart
accident. He banged up his wrists pretty well and he is having
trouble typing. The book is not the Lunar book I had been expecting
-- it is about the pre-Lunar Dara Happan mythology and civilization.
Greg was already talking about another book on the Lunar Empire. The
drafts I saw consisted of a big chunk on Solar mythology, a list of
Dara Happan emperors, and a section on the Red Emperor. The general
feel I got was that it was written from a Lunar perspective and is an
attempt to reconcile the Solar mythos with the Lunar way.
There are some startling revelations:
o The Dara Happans believe that Yelm did not rise until 475 -- the
Sun Stop was Yelm pausing in his initial trek across the sky to look
down upon his people. Apparently, the sun up to 475 was some false
or temporary diety.
o Yelm's descent into Hell was not caused by some bandit diety like
Orlanth, but rather by the need for Yelm to meet his Shadow. The
Shadow thing seems to be some sort of psychological notion -- the
aspects of the personality that are repressed.
o Illumination is a *Solar* concept, and the first Illuminate was
Yelm himself.
o Solar society is even more patriarchal than had been previously
hinted at, to the extent that Greg has been catching PC flack for
some of the more extreme manifestations. On the other hand, there
appears to be a separate and parallel female mythology in Peloria.
Other stuff:
I was under the impression that Sheng Seleris had reached the Moon
by leaping to it from the top of the world. This is apparently not
the case. (Some one else did the leaping -- who?) When Greg said he
did not know how Seleris got there, some onlooker suggested that he
leapt off the Sun as it passed by, and it seemed like a good
explanation.
Jack Dott (the president of Avalon Hill and a singularly unexcitable
kind of guy) said Dorastor would be out "in a couple of months."
I asked Greg about the copyright status of the cult writeups that
have been floating around, and he was not at all pleased with the
situation. He take was that he had to protect his copyrights or lose
them. Please contact him if you want to do something with Chaosium
copyrighted stuff.
That's all I can remember now. Mind you, I got all of this info
rather late in the evening after more than a few drinks, so I would
not give it more than a 42 on the Lhankor Mhy Truth Scale.
--David Gadbois
---------------------
From: henkl@glorantha (Henk Langeveld - Sun Nederland)
Subject: Re: rq daily vs rq digest
Message-ID: <9307051026.AA29853@glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM>
Date: 5 Jul 93 14:26:49 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 1217
> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1993 16:09:46 +1000
> From: langsl@cbr.hhcs.gov.au
> To: henk.langeveld@Holland
> Message-Id: <0096EF44.EFA0B620.12295@hhcs.gov.au>
> Subject: rq daily vs rq digest
>
> Subject: rq daily vs rq digest
>
> Henk, can you explain to me how the RQ digest differs from the daily? Do
> you edit daily stuff to go into digest, or is it only stuff identified by
> posters as being for the digest which goes into it?
>
> Alistair Langsford,
> langsl@cbr.hhcs.gov.au
The fundamental difference between RQ Daily (the discussion list)
and the digest is that the daily is produced automatically, while
I have to decide what goes into the Digest and when it is sent out.
For the Digest, I choose "interesting" items from the list, purely
according to my own whim. Glorantha is a popular selection criterion.
Otherwise, people have the opportunity to offer documents for inclusion
in the digest, by sending them to RuneQuest-Digest-Editor@Glorantha...
Not many people use that option.
There is a lot of interesting discussion on the list, and I would
like to post summaries and extracts thereof to the digest, but that
requires a lot of time, which I don't have.
Last week I decided to just forward a couple of articles which
I saved from the list to the digest, just to give people on the
Digest an idea of what is happening, and to let them know we're
still alive.
--
Henk | Henk.Langeveld@Sun.COM - Disclaimer: I don't speak for Sun.
oK[] | RuneQuest-Request@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM
---------------------
From: awr0@aberystwyth.ac.uk
Subject: My Collection of interesting stuff
Message-ID: <9307051457.AA22868@deca>
Date: 5 Jul 93 16:57:24 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 1218
If people still want material, could they please mail me again requesting the
format they require. My mailserver messed up this afternoon and thus I have
lost a number of messages. For those who have not received material yet,
the reason is due to root getting annoyed at me having 530 mail messages
ooops :->
Adam