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Subject: RuneQuest Daily, Mon, 10 Jan 1994, part 2
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From: x820660@fcusqnt.fcu.edu.tw (Bill Robertson)
Subject: Ritual of Rebirth and breeding?
Message-ID: <9401100457.AA18076@fcusqnt.fcu.edu.tw>
Date: 10 Jan 94 20:57:35 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 2764
Sandy Peterson writes...
> Mother Offspring
> Uzuz 50/50 uzko/uzuz
> Uzko 50/50 uzko/enlo litter (1d6)
> Enlo enlo
Does a "normal" being who has undergone the ritual of rebirth have the same
chances as an Uzko? I added the "normal" because Arkat was reborn as an
Uzuz, and I haven't heard of that happening to anyone else, and I'm
inclined to believe that it hasn't.
-Bill Robertson
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From: WALLMAN@VAX2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (Personal friend of Little Elvis)
Subject: Gloranthan language list
Message-ID: <01H7HUO2VB36001LBX@VAX2.Winona.MSUS.EDU>
Date: 9 Jan 94 18:10:05 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 2765
I have made an alphabetical list of regions of Glorantha (Genertela), their
corresponding language, and their related languages. I made this because I
always wished there was an official list like this. An entry looks something
like:
Ralios Ralian 1/2 Seshnegi, 1/5 Western
I did try to use official sources when possible, but I make no claim
for complete accuracy. It is around 140 lines so I thought I'd ask if
anyone wanted to see it first. Does anyone want to see it?
Ed Wallman@vax2.winona.msus.edu
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From: joe@sartar.toppoint.de (Joerg Baumgartner)
Subject: Tarsh Exiles - 0.02 DM
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Date: 10 Jan 94 07:44:29 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 2766
malcolm109@aol.com in X-RQ-ID: 2756
>I am trying to flesh out the Tarsh Exiles and the Wintertop region for use as
>a campaign setting.
>[35000 inhabitants of Wintertop lands] This contradicts
> the many statements that claim that the Exiles have stopped farming and rely
>exculsively on raiding . While I believe that the Exiles definately raid to
>aquire goods, I find it hard to believe that 35,000 settle people could
>survive primarily on bounty from raiding.
They might well have stopped raisng crops only to be burned by invading
neighbours, and taken to herding as main means of survival. After all,
a herd can be withdrawn from invaded area, a field of grain can't. Then
there might be some people who call themselves Exiles, and a native
populace not unlike the Grazeland Vendrefs who provide their lords with
agricultural produce.
What are the relations between Wintertop and Delecti? We know that
Lismelder lands are a Humakt stronghold for obvious reasons, but what
about the other side of the marsj? Do the Exiles maintain a stretch of
running water on their bank of the marsh to prevent Zombies from
crossing?
>Since a female dominated cult rules the region I must suppose that women have
>more power in the Exile communty than in normal Orlanthi society. They are
>probably in general the dominant sex in the region.
Dominant sex? I'd expect some kind of division into mens' jobs, womens'
jobs, and common jobs for both sexes, similar to some of the Praxian
tribes.
>While it's clear that the Maran Gor priestesses and their counsel are in
>complete control of the region, I'd bet that there is an Orlanthi ring of
>males that aids the priestesses in their rule. If nothing else they could
>serve as "kings" for sacrifice to the godess.
They may be so today. In earlier times they were but one of many
contestant parties, which came to power with the Illaro dynasty.
>I tend to believe from hints given in KOS that the original Tarshites where
>pursuaded by the Maran Gor priestesses to practice ritual sacrifice of their
>male leaders, and therefore the Exiles being the last remenant of Old Tarsh
>and the stronghold of Maran Gor most likely continue this tradition.
Not the original Pauper dynasty, it were the Illaro kings which (re-?)
started the sacrficial king business.
>Is there any information on the High Priestess available, other than the fact
>that she's a VERY heavy woman? What about the TWINS counter in the DP game?
>It's my guess that they are a set of one male and one female twins, who are
>perhaps the offspring of the brother of the High Priestess. (Based on the KOS
>Tarsh chapter which prominently features a male and female set of twin
>heroes.)
The most detailed information I remember is in the TotRM 6 Maran Gor
write-up. Steve Gilham's ideas about the earth sisters in the same
issue were somewhat refuted by Greg Stafford in later letters, but
still hold a lot of useful ideas for an Earth-goddess dominated
male-led society.
My impression was that the twins actually are Arim the Pauper's
children, possibly reincarnated, possibly summoned by the Kero Fin
Earth temple (not just Maran Gor, all six of them).
>Also from the KOS Tarsh article I would guess that the vast majority of the
>Exiles are members of the Kerofineli Tribe.
It's the land which gave them their name, after all, although there was
a major portion of them moved to Alone during Tarkalor's reign. THe
Kerofini mentioned in KoS 156 to join Prince Argrath's rule could have
been those resettled former Exiles.
>Now for some final questions. Does anyone have any information about the othe
>DP game named units? The Moon Haters? The Old School? The Baron's Friends?
>And who's the Baron? Any guesses?
Some guesses were made by John Castellucci in RQ Adventures 2
concerning the Moon Haters. Discussion about DP units resulted in
"These magical units were created by Argrath to counter the Lunar ones,
and the Exiles probably copied this praxis from him". In case of the
Old School and the (Sartarite) Free Philosophers I tend to doubt that
the organisations were new, only their use in warfare was. The Moon
Haters could well be one of the secret societies like those Argrath
seems so fond of joining and aquiring.
What bugged me most is the appearance of the two "archers" units only
for the Exiles in DP. Why do the Exiles have longbowmen, and neither
the Tarshites nor the Sartarites? Arrowound is too far off to explain
this mythologically, and anyway the Colymar seem to have come from
Esrolia, close to Arrowmound in the Skyreach Mountains. Or is this an
indication that Elmal/Yelmalio worshippers are more frequent around
Wintertop than e.g. around Aldachur (Alda Chur?), so that their (solar)
cult weapon, the bow, found spread application?
Another question:
What kind of race are the Earth Shakers? They remained during the
inhuman occupation. The Earth Shakers' DP counter shows a gnome-like
humanoid.
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-- Joerg Baumgartner joe@sartar.toppoint.de
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