Bell Digest v940121p3

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Subject: RuneQuest Daily, Fri, 21 Jan 1994, part 3
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From: MILLERL@wharton.upenn.edu (Loren J. Miller)
Subject: RQ/Tekumel comments
Message-ID: <01H7WYIZ53Z08Y546J@wharton.upenn.edu>
Date: 20 Jan 94 13:29:00 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 2851

Hi Everybody,

Hmmm. I hope it's obvious that I was shooting from the hip with my
RQ/Tekumel rules advice, having neither the RQ3 rules nor the
RQ/Tekumel rules before me as I wrote. Anyway, I think it was mildly
amusing to compare and contrast my take on the rules with Sandy's.

I figgered out the locations of the spots in Carmania, so you don't
have to tell me to look at the 3rd map of the Lunar Empire, but I'm
still trying to figger out how Carmanian society works, and which of
the sources on Carmanian religion is correct---do folks worship cults
as implied by the Genertela player's book or are they Malkioni as
implied by the GM's book?

whoah,
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Loren Miller            internet: MILLERL@wharton.upenn.edu
"Enough sound bites. Let's get to work."        -- Ross Perot sound bite

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From: malcolm109@aol.com
Subject: Re: HotB Lunar Incompetence
Message-ID: <9401202140.tn284219@aol.com>
Date: 21 Jan 94 02:40:22 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 2852

Brian Forester reports:

>The Lunar army commanders could of defeated those separately.  >Instead they
apparently divided their forces and allowed a whole >lunar regiment to get
slaughtered in the area of Geo's.  

Part of the problem was the stupidity of Lunar officer Aleham Ratsbane. He
believed the false claims of one Morak Moran that he was an agent of the
Emperor, and that all units were ordered to report back to the barracks.
Aleham stupidly withdrew with the entire 2nd Furthest Foot leaving General
Lergius and his troops to be wiped out by the enraged mob! Now that's Lunar
incompetence.

Malcolm Serabian aka Aleham Ratsbane......

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From: gadbois@cs.utexas.edu (David Gadbois)
Subject: Reaching Moon Megacorp North America Ltd. products
Message-ID: <19940121032111.3.GADBOIS@CLIO.MCC.COM>
Date: 20 Jan 94 15:21:00 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 2853

I will be placing an order with David Hall for copies of Tales of the
Reaching Moon number five and the Report on Boldhome I (from the run of
Home of the Bold at Convulsion I.)  If any RQ fans in North America
would like a copy of either, please let me know in the next few days.
Pricing on Tales #5 is US$4.00 ppd., and the Report is US$10.00 ppd.
The shipment will be coming by surface mail, so expect a couple of
months wait for their arrival.  I also still have copies of The
Collected Griselda (US$12.00 ppd.) and Tales #10 (US$5.00 ppd, $4.00
with subscription.)  For folks looking for copies of Tales #9, Chaosium
Inc. and stores that order through Berkeley Games North still have some
copies left.

--David Gadbois

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From: gadbois@cs.utexas.edu (David Gadbois)
Subject: RuneQuest Daily, Thu, 20 Jan 1994, part 3
Message-ID: <19940121033158.4.GADBOIS@CLIO.MCC.COM>
Date: 20 Jan 94 15:31:00 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 2855

    From: gadbois@cs.utexas.edu (David Gadbois)
    Date: 19 Jan 94 16:00:00 GMT
    X-RQ-ID: 2838

    [...] I am looking for good stories written "in character" [... and
    ...]  I would also like to see art as well as collections of very
    pieces short ala Notes from Nochet or quotable quotes. [...]

Here I am following up on my own message.  As per Medway's suggestion, I
will also take copies of good photographs of the events.  No guarantees
that they will appear in the book (I am not sure if I can pull off the
necessary de-colorization and half-toning), but I will at least scan
them in and put them up for anonymous FTP.

--David Gadbois

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From: carlf@panix.com (Carl Fink)
Subject: archery, horses, RQ Con, cannibalism, and boy, is this a weird list
Message-ID: <199401210439.AA05617@panix.com>
Date: 20 Jan 94 18:39:49 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 2856


sandyp@idcube.idsoftware.com (Sandy Petersen) writes:


>BOWSLOW. This spell's name must be altered to SLOWDART. In my
>opinion.

 Brilliant.


>The question is: what defeats horse archers? Historically, I believe
>the answer is fortifications and light or medium cavalry.

   Actually, the best defense against horse archers is living in hilly
terrain.  :-)


>Humans: rare, except Cannibal Cult and bad guys. It's clearly
>considered morally reprehensible for humans to eat humans, and my big
>book on the subject of anthropophagy points out that societies which
>permit it eventually degenerate (at first, they may only eat their
>own dead, or the hearts of honored enemies or something defensible,
>but ultimately they end up just plain cannibals).

   Sandy, can you name a non-cannibal culture that hasn't degenerated?
It is in the nature of human cultures to degenerate.



  I'll join the chorus praising David Cheng, although my enjoyment of the
con was damaged by being simultaneously sick and injured (not to mention
spending six hours trying to get off of Manhattan Island).


=========================================================================
Belief in the precognitive powers of an Asian pastry is really no
wackier than belief in ESP, subluxation, or astrology, but you just
don't hear anyone preaching Scientific Cookie-ism.     --Penn and Teller
   Carl Fink              carlf@panix.com          CARL.FINK (GEnie)
                                                                                                          

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From: appel@erzo.berkeley.edu (Shannon Appel)
Subject: RQ-Con Report IV: Wisdom of the Grey Sages
Message-ID: <199401210546.VAA11716@erzo.berkeley.edu>
Date: 20 Jan 94 13:46:49 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 2857

Well, I meant to get this done yesterday, but hey...  Here's the
fourth of my RQ-Con reports.  It details the Gloranthan Lore Auction.
Basically, Greg Stafford (and Sandy Peterson) sat up at the front of
the room, and David Cheng ran around the room and collected money, $1
a question.  This article itemizes about 1/2 of the questions and
answers from the seminar (the ones that I was fast enough to write
down).  None of the quoted questions or answers are guaranteed to be
utterly correct, but they're close.

ARACHNE SOLARE

Q: "Is Gloriana Weaver (sp?) from Wyrm's Footnotes #4 Arachne Solare?"

A: "Yes.  Probably."

Q: "Can Arachne Solare receive cult worship and do anything about it?"

A: "No.  You can enter into a personal relationship, but there is no
cult."

Q: "Is Glorantha a temple to Arachne Solare?"

A: "In the sense that a man's body is the temple to his spirit, yes."

ARGRATH

Q: "Did Argrath gain at least part of his powers from Pharoah after
Jar-eel killed him?"

A: "I didn't know that yet."

BRITHINI

Q: "Are the natives of Godforgotten Brithini or mortals who use
Brithini government?"

A: "There are Brithini there."

Q: "Do Brithini & Mostali really have an immortal soul or do they
dissipate upon death?"

A: "They dissipate."

Q: "Where did Zabor put Brithos and will it return?"

A: "The current theory is that the removal of Brithos was an accident.
No one knows where it went.  It's not on the hero plane or in Solace
or elsewhere."

CHARG

Q: "When the ban falls in Charg, what comes out?"

A: "I don't know."

DRAGONNEWTS

Q: "You once said that a Dragonnewt stated that something important
would happen in 823,543 ST (7^7 ST).  Is this still true?"

A: "Yes."

Q: "What was the Dragonnewt's Dream?"

A: "I don't know."

EURMAL

Q: "Does Orlanth maintain the sanctity of the trickster to have a tool
of change?"

A: "No.  It's not his intent.  He's adapting to the fact that Eurmal
is always there."

GEO

Q: "Was Geo a Soup-er Hero?"

A: "Clearly, and his high priests are Room Lords."

GOD LEARNERS

Q: "What is the God Learner's Secret?"

A: "Give that man his dollar back."

Q: "What was the relationaship between EWF and the God Learners?"

A: "Hostility.  There were several other empires in the second age
too.  That was the Age of Empires."

HILL OF GOLD

Q: "Who is the Goddess of the Hill of Gold?"

A: "Inora."

ICE

Q: "What is ice in Glorantha." (this question was particularly in
relation to the ice rune.)

A: "It's frozen water.  We sort of wish we hadn't published that
rune."

LIGHTBRINGERS

Q: "Who is flesh man?"

A: "Flesh Man is Everyman.  Anyone who is mortal can sit in that
place."

Q: "Who and what is the nature of Ginna Jar?"

A: "Ginna Jar is EITHER another blank space on the Council that might
change (for example, it might be a Humakt or a Babeester Gor, as
needed), OR the collective spirit of the members of the Lightbringer's
ring."

MALKIONI

Q: "What really happens to Malkioni souls?"

A: "Their Solace is not directly accessible via HeroQuest means."

PAVIS

Q: "The salt mine in Pavis, is that the devil's tears?"

A: "It could be... if it looks like something that fits, it probably
should."

Q: "What is the secret of the Puzzle Canal?  It's overall significance?"

A: "If you sail into it, and sail about right, and come back out in a
certain manner, you're in the hero plane."

Q: "Was Pinchining (of the Cradle Scenerio) a Gold Wheel Dancer?"

A: "yes."

PHARAOH

Q: "Was the Pharaoh a God Learner refuge?"

A: "I don't know.  We know that the Pharoah fell out of the future."

Q: "Is there a tie between Delecti's ability to reincarnate in corpses
and the Pharaoh's ability to reincarnate in live bodies?"

A: "No."

THE RED EMPEROR

Q: "Is it possible for normal people to become the Red Emperor?"

A: "Yes.  After Sheng Solaris, definitely.  Before Sheng Solaris, he
was definitely always the same person.  A bunch of people initially
created the Red Emperor, but many of them were killed by Sheng
Solaris, so he changed.  Perhaps you just sit at the Council and
contribute to the Red Emperor in that way?"

THE SEVEN MOTHERS

Q: "Could you say a little on She Who Waits."

A: "You'll have to wait; I'm not sure."

SNOW TROLLS

Q: "Are snow trolls associated with darkness or cold?"

A: "Both."

TIME

Q: "Does time have a consciousness.  Is it an entity?"

A: "No."

TIME TRAVEL

Q: "Is time travel possible?"

A: "No, except that you may fall out of time accidently."

Q: "What about the Hidden Castles?  Couldn't you time travel with
those?"

A: "Yes, but you don't know when you're getting out."

THE SIX QUESTIONS

Q: "What are the six questions that you won't answer?"

A: "That's one of them."

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From: henkl@yelm (Henk Langeveld - Sun Nederland)
Subject: Re: MOSTALI & MAL
Message-ID: <9401210813.AA24173@yelm.Holland.Sun.COM>
Date: 21 Jan 94 10:13:00 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 2858

In rq-list you write:


>Has anyone noticed the strange similarities between the religions of the Dwarfs
>and the Malkioni?
> 
>My hypothesis is that the Invisible God and Mostal the Maker are one and the
>same being, worshipped in similar fashion by two different cultures. Anyone out
>there agree? Disagree?
> 

So if the two only differ in name, who cares?

Both are perfect manifestations of the Stasis Rune.

Stasis == Law
-- 
Henk	|	Henk.Langeveld@Sun.COM - Disclaimer: I don't speak for Sun.
oK[]	|	My first law of computing: "NEVER make assumptions"


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