Bell Digest v940211p1

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X-RQ-ID: Intro

	[Sorry for the delay, disk trouble... -HL]

This is the RuneQuest Daily Bulletin, a mailing list on
the subjects of Avalon Hill's RPG and Greg Stafford's 
world of Glorantha.  It is sent out once per day in digest
format.

More details on the RuneQuest Daily and Digest can be found
after the last message in this digest.


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From: COR_HVH@KUNRC1.URC.KUN.NL
Subject: what's in a name
Message-ID: <01H8Q4EWDN6Q8X1VU8@KUNRC1.URC.KUN.NL>
Date: 10 Feb 94 16:42:38 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 3066

Hans van Halteren here.

Last week I asked: if [Nysalor] is [nice][lord] and [Gbaji] is [bad][guy] in
a word similarity sense, what word combination can we project into [Arkat]?
Well, my subconscious finally spit out an answer: [Arkat] might be [arc][out].
The reason for this is Arkat's major contribution to the Gloranthan art of
heroquesting. As we heard from the Great Trickster himself at RQCon Arkat
developed the technique of going on a standard God X Heroquest, recognizing
a place on the Heroplane and exiting the quest by a path normally connected
to a God Y Heroquest. With this technique he managed to take more effective
(read easier and/or higher yield) paths through the Heroplane than your normal
single-god abiding hero.

So even the name "Arkat" can be interpreted. It is probably useless to try
to determine whether Greg does this on purpose or not. Maybe it is just his
subconscious too. Maybe it is all coincidental. Anyway, finding these 
interpretations is a fun game: all of you are welcome to join me in
Namequest (tm).

Happy questing,
Hans van Halteren (hvh@lett.kun.nl)

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From: davidc@cs.uwa.oz.au (David Cake)
Subject: A couple of little questions
Message-ID: <199402101507.XAA25538@cs.uwa.oz.au>
Date: 10 Feb 94 15:08:47 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 3067


A couple of questions from my campaign, that I thought that I would throw to
the Daily.
	A player has just qualified as a Wind Lord, and he is also Champion
of Garhound. I told him that it was inappropriate for him to become a Wind
Lord just yet, as he has responsibilities (as Champion of Garhound) that 
prevent him from giving 90% of his time to the cult.
	Does anyone agree or disagree? I have some doubtsmyself now, as I can
see that being Champion of Garhound (acting out the role of husband-protector
of Ernalda) could be seen as a sacred duty that is acceptanle rune-lord 
behaviour.
	Another question - what do Orlanthi do in the Sacred Time? My party,
for some reason, want to go with the Lhankor Mhy scholars to the block, and
hopefully there do some sort of minor heroquest type thing (it is sacred time,
and they are over-excitable), but I might make them remain in Pavis for the
Orlanthi ceremonies, if they have any. Possibly Krogar Wolfhelm will try to
reenact the Arming or Orlanth, and will be attacked half-way through by Lunar
treachery (probably Radak the Iron centurion and some magical backup).


Cheers
	Dave Cake
	davidc@cs.uwa.edu.au

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From: marc@netcom.com (Marc Willner)
Subject: Pirates, Dormal, and The Handran League
Message-ID: <199402101612.IAA24019@mail.netcom.com>
Date: 10 Feb 94 00:12:12 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 3068

Hello out there. I've been lurking in the background for a couple of months
now and have gotten the courage to write something. Enough with the intro-
duction.

In X-RQ-ID: 3058, Joerg gives a description of his ideas of the Wolf 
Pirates, which got me thinking about piracy on Glorantha in general. I'm
not sure it could exist, especially if you include the more technical 
definition of attacking ships on the High Seas.

It is my understanding that Dormal didn't break the Curse that closed the
seas, he merely developed a ritual that allowed a ship to circumvent
it. That means every ship needs a Priest of Dormal to sail. Therefore a
pirate shop must have a priest to attack another ship, also carrying a 
priest. This seems somewhat silly, especially since it has been less than
40 years (assuming a current date of 1621) since the ritual has been
widespread. Has there been a schism in Dormal worship in so short a time?

Another point is where did the pirates learn the ritual? Did Dormal broadcast
it to everyone?

Joerg also mentioned the Handran League. As the originator of the City of
Handra (for an RQ 1 campaign), I am curious about the source, especially the
bits about "disowned nobles or merchants" and "leading Handran families".
The original Handra is a primative socialist/collectivist democracy and 
doesn't have nobles, or for that matter, families. I suppose that a member
of the Merchant "Guild" (the citizens who have the most contact with out-
siders) might yearn for the luxuries of the rich and decide to abandon the 
Handran way and join a pirate organization, calling him/herself a noble.
Of course, without a ship or seafaring knowledge, I'm not sure what use
the pirates would make of him/her.

Two other matters. Is anyone going to DunDraCon, in San Ramon over the 
Presidents' Day weekend? If so, I hope to see you there. Second, is there
a RQ campaign in the South San Francisco Bay area that is looking for
another player? I haven't played RuneQuest regularly since 1979 and am
feeling left out.
Marc Willner
marc@netcom.com
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From: ngl28@rz.uni-kiel.d400.de (ngl28)
Subject: "DARKNESS HORSES AND HOUNDS
Message-ID: <5853*_S=ngl28_OU=rz_PRMD=uni-kiel_ADMD=d400_C=de_@MHS>
Date: 10 Feb 94 20:06:39 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 3070

David Dunham in X-RQ-ID: 3064

>One of my players asked about how the Grazers got on with Black Horse
>County. My immediate impression, not recalling anything written on the
>subject, is that they're tough to raid, and their horses are of no use
>(Grazer horses can't mate with Ethilrist's demon horses, it'd be like
>mating with an automobile), so the Grazers more or less leave them alone.

These horses being creatures of darkness and the Grazer ponies creatures of 
the Sun, possibly not.
These demon horses and Hell Hounds are a bit of a puzzle to me. They are 
creatures of Hell and Darkness, yet not related to trolls and their usual 
fauna.
As for the horses, these might stem from Yelm's imprisonment in Hell, but 
where do the Hounds come from. I think it was Sandy who mentioned that the 
Hound was the result of a heroquest made by Ethilrist, rather than a 
creature present in myth before. On the other hand, Gerak Kag's army 
invading Prax (and severely damaging the Golden Horse people and their god 
of archery) used hell hounds as well to harrass the nomads.

Are the trolls dog keepers? How did the hound get its darkness association? 
Or is Hell in this case not darkness, but death?

>I don't recall when Ethilrist arrived. If this was after 1250, when the
>Grazers were in Dragon Pass, he would have had to grab territory, which
>would have annoyed the Grazers.

I think in the Dragon Pass boardgame rules it is said that he settled on an 
illegal land grant by the Red Emperor. This implies that the arm of the 
Empire must have been long enough to reach into Dragon Pass, and this sets 
it well after 1250.

Maybe this annoyed the Grazers, but with other, more pressing problems at 
hand (e.g. a Vendref uprising) and Ethilrist's superior milirtary and magic 
they won't have stood a chance to expel him.

>Where did Ethilrist's simple farmers come from?

From retired companions and their offspring, I'd guess.


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From: LOREN@marketing.wharton.upenn.edu (Loren Miller)
Subject: Grain Goddesses
Message-ID: <29E19EF62A4@marketing.wharton.upenn.edu>
Date: 10 Feb 94 19:30:35 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 3071

Paul and Finula and Nick and I have been chatting off-line and the
question got to be what kind of grains are appropriate for the various
Grain Goddesses. Some of the possible grains would be:

    Millet
    Barley
    Oats
    Wheat
    Maize
    Rye
    Rice

And some likely legumes and other staple foods that "Grain" goddesses
might supply would include:

    Potato
    Tomato
    Peas
    Lima Beans
    Kidney Beans
    and many more beans
    Peanuts
    Squash
    Pumpkin

Since my new campaign will be in Carmania I'm thinking about that area.
I'd like to say that Pela, who is the Grain Goddess in Carmania, gives
either Rye or Oats because they're both good northern crops, but in GoG
Seshna gives Rye and Esrola gives Oats (odd, since Oats are a northern
crop) and Pela doesn't give any grain at all. Finula votes for Oats (I'm a
poet!) and Paul goes for Potatoes (and again!) and I like Rye (and again!) 
because it has the most interesting fungal colonies of any of them.

I suppose that if I can't come up with anything better I'll just make up a
grain, and say it tastes like Rye but is subtly different (the Carmanians
would say it tastes a lot better) but still susceptible to Ergot (which is
just too much fun for the GM to ignore). Maybe call it Kury or something
like that... Has anybody else worried about this kind of stuff? What did
you decide?


--
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Loren Miller              LOREN@wmkt.wharton.upenn.edu
Into the flood again,  same old trip  it was back when

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From: henkl@holland.sun.com (Henk Langeveld - Sun Nederland)
Subject: Re: Champion of Garhound
Message-ID: <1994Feb10.204317.22888@holland.sun.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 20:43:17 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 3072

davidc@cs.uwa.oz.au (David Cake) writes:

>	Does anyone agree or disagree? I have some doubtsmyself now, as I can
>see that being Champion of Garhound (acting out the role of husband-protector
>of Ernalda) could be seen as a sacred duty that is acceptanle rune-lord 
>behaviour.

I'd go for this interpretation.
You might say he's already involved 
in a year-long HeroQuest...

-- 
Henk	|	Henk.Langeveld@Sun.COM - Disclaimer: I don't speak for Sun.
oK[]	|	My first law of computing: "NEVER make assumptions"

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From: 100116.2616@CompuServe.COM (David Hall)
Subject: Elf stuff
Message-ID: <940210212711_100116.2616_BHJ23-3@CompuServe.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 94 21:27:11 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 3073

>From: kenrolston@aol.com

>I'm fooling around with elves and Aldryami. I've given Elder Secrets and 
Gods
>of Glorantha sources a thorough combing. Are there any official published
>sources or inspired unpublished materials anyone would like to recommend?

When I stayed at Sandy's place he had the unpublished Elfpak in his box of 
goodies. However, from my memories of a brief look at it, I'm not sure if 
it fits into the "inspired" category. 

However, do check out Paul Honigmann's ideas on Elf Psychology which 
appeared in the Digest around October time. (I'm sure someone can provide 
the volume, date, and time!) These were certainly inspired. 

For additional info, I think Bryan Maloney should also send you his Wild 
Rose Sprites article.           

Otherwise, I reckon you're on your own! 

Cheers,

David Hall

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From: carlsonp@wdni.com (Carlson, Pam)
Subject: address change
Message-ID: <2D5ABCE6@itlab.wtc.weyer.com>
Date: 10 Feb 94 22:28:00 GMT
X-RQ-ID: 3074


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Pam

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