From: RuneQuest-Request@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM (RQ Digest Maintainer) To: RuneQuest@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM (Daily automated RQ-Digest) Reply-To: RuneQuest@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM (RuneQuest Daily) Subject: RuneQuest Daily, Fri, 08 Apr 1994, part 2 Sender: Henk.Langeveld@Holland.Sun.COM Content-Return: Prohibited Precedence: junk --------------------- From: JARDINE@RMCS.CRANFIELD.AC.UK Subject: Glorantha IS NOT Earth Message-ID: <9404071701.AB00683@Sun.COM> Date: 7 Apr 94 15:51:00 GMT X-RQ-ID: 3544 Hi All I would like to express my support for those who have stated That Glorantha is not Earth and we should not be so quick to transplant things for Earth to Glorantha (frex. games although I will forgive the Issaries Trading Sticks game). While Earth analoges may be useful for out understanding of how Glorantha works, I would hate to see Glorantha cheapened by the whole- sale transplantation of concepts that occurs in some other FRPGs. On a second similar theme; why is everyone so worried about whether Humans in Glorantha have Iron in their blood. Remember that in Glorantha the metal which we refer to as iron (and all the others for that matter) is NOT the same substance as terrestrial iron, thus all the arguements about the relative density/ magnetic properties/ chemical compounds is irrelevant! Remember this is a fantasy setting we are talking about, magic is REAL and thus we should be a little more careful about using real-world knowledge. It may transpose, it may be useful for aiding understanding, then again it may not... ----- Lewis ----- --------------------- From: 100270.337@CompuServe.COM (Nick Brooke) Subject: Re: Gloranthan Chess Message-ID: <940407185700_100270.337_BHL38-1@CompuServe.COM> Date: 7 Apr 94 18:57:00 GMT X-RQ-ID: 3545 I agree that we should avoid "stealing" things directly from this world for use in Glorantha. But unless we know what *kind* of sport or game we're talking about, there's precious little point in trying to write anything. For my Carmanian work, I'm assuming that the game of 'ravenkaaz' played in the West Reaches is analogous to Chess. It has at least one 'king' (look at Welsh gwyddbwll to see a game with *only* one king), and several 'pawns' as its pieces. One of the endings for the game is known as "The King is Dead" (Shah-maat in Old Carmanian, or 'checkmate' in the vernacular) -- this is also the Carmanian name for the Battle of the Four Arrows of Light. The old Carmanian sets had black and white pieces; modern Lunar sets have red and black. (Playing with red and white opposed is heretical, and banned). This would imply that *another* form of Chess is played in the West, where the Carmanians came from, and that this game probably has black and white pieces -- but beyond that, I would not like (and do not need) to theorise. Joerg: how do you get up into the Middle Air, without a spiral? She 'danced her last dream' before there was a Moon, after all. I see a possible clash between mystical and institutional Lunar religion: the former follows the acts of the Goddess in her life, the latter the precepts of the Lunar Way taught by her followers and descendents. Glamour and Torang as the Baghdad and Mecca of Lunar religion. A recommendation to everyone: rush out and buy Ian Dennis's excellent pair of books, "Bagdad" and "The Prince of Stars". For inexplicable reasons I've found them remaindered in the UK, so buy them fast before they're pulped! The spirit of the Arabian Nights lives on; I've also found them very useful as a way of investigating and illuminating the Lunar Way. (All this IMHO). ==== Nick ==== --------------------- From: WALLMAN@VAX2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (Close friend of Little Elvis) Subject: broo gender Message-ID: <01HAWI2GY0TU002G7N@VAX2.Winona.MSUS.EDU> Date: 7 Apr 94 13:00:05 GMT X-RQ-ID: 3546 >From: JARDINE@RMCS.CRANFIELD.AC.UK > The great broo debate. > I believe that ALL broo are born male. It has been stated in a number > of places that broo are like their fathers andhave no sisters. > I also remember reading that they are patrigenic? It strikes me as odd that a race of chaotic beings would have such a uniform and absolute trait. I think chaos would notice this and create an occasional abomination (female) just to be... chaotic. There was a scenario that never got played out in an old campaign of mine that had a female broo that bred profusely. Sort of like the queen alien in Aliens. In addition, male broos in the area could sense this and made a bee line from all over the countryside towards her. Sooner or later some smart person would point out these strange travelling patterns of broos and tell some brave (i.e. stupid) adventurer. --------------------- From: ddunham@radiomail.net (David Dunham) Subject: Carmania and other Earthly analogs Message-ID: <199404080118.AA21309@radiomail.net> Date: 8 Apr 94 01:18:07 GMT X-RQ-ID: 3547 I just located Carmania on a map. It's south of Parthia, and includes a city called Alexandria. Today it's part of Iran. I was all set to borrow some of the fostering tables from Pagan Shore to use in Sartar, but didn't see any references in King of Sartar to the practice of sending your kids as foster children to another family. Do the Sartarites (Orlanthi) do this? I noticed (in KoS) that "secret murder" is a capital crime. This is probably from Icelandic justice. If you killed someone, you had to ride to the nearest stead and announce the killing. If you didn't, the penalties were much greater. --------------------- From: Aden_Steinke@ms-gw.uow.edu.au (Aden Steinke) Subject: Yelmalian Tactics Message-ID: <199404080150.LAA04276@wyrm.cc.uow.edu.au> Date: 8 Apr 94 22:43:52 GMT X-RQ-ID: 3548 Subject: Yelmalian Tactics As far as I can see the mix of Yelmalian weapons and capacity most closely approximates Greece at the time of it's conquest by Alexander (but with greater emphasis on bows) rather than ancient celts / scythians / homeric period greeks. The Sun Dome Templars are true phalangites (in the manner of Alexanders Macedonian veterans), armed with pike and well drilled, while other Yelmalians are more like the hoplites who can range from irregular bodies of armoured citizen foot (such as Lydians with spear and javelin) to drilled regulars (such as Spartans), but without the special formations / depth of phalangites. The hill barbarian Yelmalians are more like the Illyrian enemies of Alexander, with lightly armoured spearmen fighting in rough terrain, who should be capable of ambushing with a hail of thrown javelins (or bows). Aden Steinke --------------------- From: hmangold@muselab.ac.runet.edu Subject: The Auction Rages On! Message-ID: <9404080240.AA21060@muselab.ac.runet.edu> Date: 8 Apr 94 02:40:31 GMT X-RQ-ID: 3549 Well, the RuneQuest Companion auction rages on! The high bid so far is $14.00. In the next update I'm going to list the name of the prson with the high bid so far. If you object to this, please say so when you bid. :) I realized that I didn't list the contents of the book, so here goes: -Welcome to The RuneQuest Companion. (Charlie Krank) -An Expanded Cult Compatibility Chart. -An Index To RQ (II) Cults (Sherman Kahn) -A Portion of the Jonstown Compendium (Greg Stafford) -The Harlot of Alone...a story fragment...(Ron Nance) -The Maze of Shaxry Oborok...solo adventure...(Alan LaVergne) -Walktapus Cooking (Bill Johnson) -The Holy Country (Greg Stafford) -Species Spotlight: Unicorns (Sandy Peterson) -The Dispatch of Fadabius...document...(Jim McCormick) -Illusion Magic (Greg Stafford) -Skullbush... a Praxian plant...(Sandy Peterson) -Prince Agrath's Entry Into Boldhome (Ron Nance) -The Smell Of A Rat...Lhankor Mhy detective story...(Alan LaVergne) -More On Trolls (Sandy Peterson) -A History of My Black Horse Troop (Greg Stafford) -The Ivory Plinth...poetry...(Greg Stafford) Thats what the book contains. Ask yourself, how can you live without it! How can you call your life complete! :) Seriuosly though, its in excellent shape. And, lest anyone say "if its so good why are you selling it, you shyster!", I'll have you know that I somehow ended up with two copies (how is a mystery to me). Send bids to the adresses below, with preference to the muselab.runet adress (I check it more often). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hal Mangold >> hmangold@muselab.ac.runet.edu >>"Patience is like bread Savage Henry >> Radford University,Radford Va.>> they say,I ran out of SvgeHenry@aol.com >> Apathy capitol of the USA >> that yesterday.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geek code under construction. ---------------------