From: RuneQuest-Request@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM (RQ Digest Maintainer) To: RuneQuest@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM (Daily automated RQ-Digest) Reply-To: RuneQuest@Glorantha.Holland.Sun.COM (RuneQuest Daily) Subject: RuneQuest Daily, Tue, 31 May 1994, part 7 Sender: Henk.Langeveld@Holland.Sun.COM Content-Return: Prohibited Precedence: junk --------------------- From: cullen.oneill@thuemmel.com (CULLEN O'NEILL) Subject: Misc Message-ID: <940530132034328@thuemmel.com> Date: 28 May 94 09:12:54 GMT X-RQ-ID: 4264 Gary Newton in X-RQ-ID: 4187 G> Please let me know if anyone G> would like to see more in the same vein, otherwise Jonas and I can G> take this onto a private channel. I found 'WHAT THE VICAR TOLD ME - A LOOK AT THE CHURCH IN ESTALI' fascinating, wonderful and generally a good thing... I may comment on it if I can Think of anything to add... more please! -=()=- Sandy Petersen in X-RQ-ID: 4192 S>The dumbest weapon skill I ever had in my campaign was a guy... Something similar happened to me, I had a group of players who were attacked on a river barge with no missile weapons (due to my coniving) and one of the players was preparing soup in a pot... well I had an priest leader on the shore directing his henchmen to attack remotely (yelling really), and casting spells at will, the cook seeing this says "I'm going to throw my pot at him!" So I say ok I'll give you a 5% change of hitting him... and (of course) it comes up 01, and as you said he wants a skill roll, makes it and whenever they got into trouble after that, out comes the pot and he always got lucky with that D**ned pot, when it really mattered! S> Option One for the Rokari S> Option Two sounds more Hrestoli Quite concur. -=()=- Alistair Langsford in X-RQ-ID: 4185 A> What published materials would people recommend for starting off a A> new campaign for new players? I am particularly interested in the I would say that apple lane worked well for me as an intro, and I think River of Cradles would be good for begining players (but maybe not for a begining Ref?). -=()=- Pam Carlson in X-RQ-ID: 4186 P> 1. What happens if a human eats a chaotic critter, like a slime deer P> or a two-headed bunny? Does Walktapus have any side effects besides P> regeneration in-stomacho? Well I'd say damage, with a chance of aquiring a chaotic feature (depending on the amount etc... wing it?) Eating walktapus that hasn't been treated by the lunar army (if that rumor is true), would in my opinion be suicide unless one gets it purged, and the above applies. P> 2. How would an Orlanthi clan chief deal with a young man from his P> clan who had been caught robbing strangers? Fines? Banishment? P> Confinement? Lop off body parts? Make him do extra work? I think that the main thing about Orlanthi society is that it has no predefined routines, each situation is reacted to on its merits. Any of these would be god in the right circumstances, with the right chief (cruel vs mild) and the right young man (age, previous behavior)... I would go for confinement, followed by working him til he drops everyday for 6 mnts or so... unless he was a trouble-maker, then 1 yr.s banishment from the clan? P> 3. Do Orlanthi farmers have to pay taxes to the clan to support the P> non-farmers (the poor, the housecarls, the smith)? Do their tithes P> they pay as initiates cover this? I don't think its this organized, its more clan based, the poor don't GET taken care of unless their clan can help them, the others would use barter to get their bread (although they would probably have rights to some of the clans land, and exchange part of the crop to pay the people who work it. P> certainly haven't found many. Does anyone else want to see more P> canids, or have I been sniffing too much flea spray? It does seem a bit odd, Brother Dog exists of course, and I recall a few other mentions... -=()=- Bernt Hillesland in X-RQ-ID: 4190 B> Any ideas on how I could make this scenario work? A race to get the escaped salamander maybe? The Salamander wants to be free (?) The Agimori would like to get scarred by it, the Dwarves want to take it back to the depths to bind it in an underground volcano (repair work maybe?) and the Yelmalion want to turn it into a temple guardian for their main temple. All the factions want the others to fail, but need a focus... maybe the salamander is trying to get away to a land where lava flows are common (this could be nasty) thus lava flows are like walls and the whole thing becomes a maze, with the salamander able to leap the walls. "I almost got him sarge, but he lept into a river of fire." "Well! why didn't ya leap in after him?!?" Just an idea. -=()=- David Dunham in X-RQ-ID: 4193 D>Tales of Ralios. Loved it! -=()=- Paul Reilly in X-RQ-ID: 4199 P> Anyway, I have a LOT of stuff on this subject, and I don't think P> everyone would be interested. Perhaps a Malkion mailing list would P> be appropriate for the real fanatics? We don't want to annoy people P> with excessive 'scholarly' discussions in a public forum, so perhaps P> we should retreat to the catacombs of email. Include me in. Cullen --------------------- From: cullen.oneill@thuemmel.com (CULLEN O'NEILL) Subject: RE: RQ-Daily May 28 1994 Message-ID: <940530132050368@thuemmel.com> Date: 29 May 94 06:44:35 GMT X-RQ-ID: 4265 Sandy Petersen in X-RQ-ID: 4215 S> Really? I've always thought of them as farmers, myself. I My picture of the Orlanthi is that there is only a fairly small amount of easily arable (ie: flat) land and this gets plowed and due to bless crops/etc... its very fruitful, but that this forms maybe 1/3 of their activity. with Herding and hunting/gathering forming the rest... alot of the grain get used for beer too! :-) S> Cullen O'Neill and Boris are having a discussion on multiple-deity ... S> Garzeen, Goldentongue, etc. Orlanth's big carved log will show him S> holding all five Sacred Weapons, at a minimum. OK, so multiple dieties in a cult do occur... S> the initiate". For that matter, associate cults deserve a mention. I S> bet the High Holy Day prayer for Storm Bull includes lengthy mentions S> and evocations of Ernalda, Eiritha, Zorak Zoran, etc. Yeah, although associate dieties... are they being worshipped exactly? I thought that they would be represented by their followers in ritual reenactments and not exactly worshipped so much as given a role in the worship of the main diety... but maybe that's just my version. S> For that matter, in my own campaign, my solution to the problem S> espoused at great length by Joerg and Alex is that I permit S> "switching" of one's initiate status from one cult to an associate S> once in a lifetime, if you haven't become an acolyte or Rune level. ... S> I have always felt that this was S> workable in game-play, culturally acceptable, and simple. Sounds like a good compromise, although I'm tempted to add the proviso "with the permision of your priest or god".... but for the sake of PEACE will refrain ;^). (Wouldn't want to get dragged into the 'send spirits of reprisal' debate ) --------------------- Paul Reilly in X-RQ-ID: 4220 P>> Confinement? P> P> Ugh. Orlanth would zap me. I might have him watched until P> sentencing if I didn't trust his word or get his parole. Well, I think that this might be used as a punishment precisely because it is abhorent. Admittedly it might be used for more serious crimes... P>> Lop off body parts? P> P> Urgh. What kind of person do you take me for? Actually, heavily P> Westernized Orlanthi might stoop to this sort of thing. Yuch. Recall we're talking Glorantha here, It's painful, and he'd have to pay through the nose to get it fixed but its not irrevocable. You and Martin picked up on the point(s) I missed, Good! --------------------- Gary Newton in X-RQ-ID: 4187 G> I HAVE HEARD OF OTHER POWERS? CAN YOU TELL ME THE TRUTH ABOUT THEM? G> ... G> barbarians in the east personify the Breath of God and worship it Is 'Breath of God' the name of an Angel or no? I seem to recall Mikael means 'Strength of God' in Hebrew... G> ...CHAOS? G> ... G> by evil and twisted creatures worthy only of destruction. I can easily see this as resulting in a branch that sees all the Theistic gods as 'Chaos gods' and is thus REALLY nasty to any they meet, and also going the other way and including just about every non-obviously chaotic god as an angel... I like it, it's easy to twist to suit the purposes of the group's leader(s)! Very nice! Cullen --------------------- From: paul@phyast.pitt.edu (Paul Reilly) Subject: Re: Carmanians: Zoroastrians on the Rocks with a Twist Message-ID: <9405302017.AA06826@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu> Date: 30 May 94 20:17:32 GMT X-RQ-ID: 4266 Paul Reilly here. The Carmanian interest group is working on stuff to release to the net. I will jump the gun a little to correct an impression that Steven Barnes picked up somewhere: "They {the Zoroastrians} believe in a creator diety; they believe in an ongoing conflict between the forces of Darkness and Light. Darkness = Evil, Lies, and Destruction; Light = Good, Truth." True enough, there is a lot more. On to the Carmanians. "Regarding the Carmanians, the Creator is obviously analgous to the Invisible God. If we use Zoarastorism as a model, this suggests that they revere dieties (or "saints") of light, and shun those of darkness." The Carmanians believe in a Light/Dark dichotomy; however BALANCE is the key here. The Universe is working properly when these forces, emanated from the God, are in proper balance. The Dara Happans are, in the Carmanian view, doomed to cycles of revolution and destruction because they try to deny the Dark side of life. This leads to much evil - perhaps the whole trauma of the God's War was brought about as a response to Yelm's Bright Empire. So it's like Zoroastrianism but different. One has to embrace the Dark as well as the Light. Different factions within the Carmanian Church have different ideas on how best to go about this, but I think all would acknowledge the basic principle. Nick? - Paul --------------------- From: appel@erzo.berkeley.edu (Shannon Appel) Subject: Updated RQ Magazine Indices Now Available Message-ID: <199405302328.QAA12149@erzo.berkeley.edu> Date: 30 May 94 09:28:18 GMT X-RQ-ID: 4267 I've just finished updating two of my RQ magazine indices. The RQ Adventures index now includes issue 3, the Block special. The Wyrm's Footnotes index now includes the complete run (issues 1-14) as well as the RuneQuest Companion. If you'd like to get either index, either FTP to soda.berkeley.edu, and retrieve them from the directory (/pub/rpg-index) or watch the newsgroup rec.games.frp.archives. If you don't have access to FTP or news, just drop me a line, and I'll be happy to mail you the updated indices. Shannon --------------------- From: ddunham@radiomail.net (David Dunham) Subject: Re: Alynxes; Agimori; Pelanda Message-ID: <199405310258.AA18823@radiomail.net> Date: 31 May 94 02:58:34 GMT X-RQ-ID: 4268 Nick wrote an fine story about why Yinkin doesn't herd sheep. So, what _do_ alynxes do? Dorastor has them as hunting animals. It's obviously they could do jobs domestic cats do (kill mice). And they make great allies/familiars. Anything else? >The Agimori in Prax are hard-line old- >timer warriors, a bit like a human culture of Humakti would be. Back in >Pamaltela, you can see their whole society I've always run Praxian Agimori as very strait-laced; I'm sure the Pamaltelan Doraddi have more fun. The Praxians live in a much harsher environment, and are surrounded by potential enemies. I view them as Sparta-like in many attitudes. Several folks have mentioned Pelanda recently. (For those who don't have Glorious ReAscent of Yelm, it's the area west of Dara Happa, probably Orinin and Doblian.) Is there still a Pelandan culture? I thought it was old, and has gone the way of the Saxons (replaced by Pelorians). Or does it still coexist (under the Lunars) alongside the Dara Happans? ---------------------