> i'm still confused on this issue.
>
> The traditional spirits listed in the Yu-Kargazant tradition are: Ancestor
> Spirits, Fire Spirits, and Stallion Spirits. My question is do any males
> other than shamans have access to these spirits? Can other males other
than
> shamans use fetishes with these spirits inhabiting them?
>
> The two quotes listed above seems to conflict on these questions. I
> understand that riders have access to Hunter Spirits, and Warriors have
> access to Battle Spirits and Bravery Spirits. My question again is do they
> have access to Ancestor Spirits, Fire Spirits, and Stallion Spirits?
Yes, they do, but they must go through a shaman. The shaman can go off to
the Spirit world and capture a Stallion spirit in a fetish at the request of
a tribesman (well, with a suitable "gift" of course...).
RR