Re: Hero cults and subcults

From: Andrew Dawson <asmpd_at_...>
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:00:49 -0400


At 02:39 AM 04/18/2000 +0000, markmohrfield wrote:
>Andrew Dawson
>>>Beyond the contradictory discussions taking place on this list:
>1. Devotees to a god cannot also be devotees to a hero.
>2. Only devotees to a god can be devotees to a hero.
>3. No time obligations overlap.
>4. Time obligations can overlap (3&4 said by same person at different
>times, IIRC).
>5. Etc.<<
>
>I've been trying to follow the discussions of 1 & 2. I think some of
>the confusion seems to stem from whether there is any difference
>between a "subcult" ,such as Hedkoranth being a subcult of Oralnth
>Thunderous, and hero cults, such as Asacar the Black being a subcult
>of Bisos the Hazar in the Wesley Quadros character writeup. Could
>someone please clarify this?

I'm going to take a stab at this:

  1. Hedkoranth is an aspect of Orlanth. You generally worship an aspect of a greater god. I think that it may have been a mistake to name Orlanth Adventurous as a subcult in the Keywords chapter. The other aspects aren't called subcults and the Theism chapter states that subcults focus on a single affinity or even feat. Any comment on this mention of OA as a subcult being an error from Those Who Know?
  2. As stated above and amplified (from the Theism chapter), subcults focus on the worship of petty gods or heroes and/or focus on a single affinity or feat.

By these guidelines most (if not all; I'm not one of Those Who Know) hero cults and single affinity/feat cults are subcults, while cults like Hedkoranth are full-fledged cults/aspects of a greater god with three (or maybe more) affinities. I recall that Hedkoranth had only one affinity in the original chapters that appeared on the GTA website and this may have added to the confusion in this case.

When I use the word subcult, I am referring to single affinity/feat cults of which only hero cults seem representative so far.

Thanks,
Andy

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