Re: Multiplying and adding.

From: jeffkyer <jakyer_at_...>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:43:03 -0000

>
> Charles:
> > Do you mean adding the ability ratings of two different devotees
> > here? (trying to remember the context of the previous
discussion...)
>
> No, I mean the Axe Trance and Mace Trance secrets: if you have CC
15W3,
> and Axe Trance 10W2, that's an effective 5W6 when 'secretted up'.
(Ow.)
> Then again, I guess this is Unofficial, if the Secretary wishes to
> disavow Mark and Ian here. ;-) Though it does take an effective
10HP
> to raise the secret a single point, it must be said, when one
factors
> in the cost of the affinities. Though if the affinities are "cost
> effective" in and of themselves...
>
They're pretty offical. Those were the subcults of Maran which got cut from Storm Tribe due to lack of space.

The secret can be raised without trouble (1HP gives a +1 till you get to the 'cap' of 1/2 your lowest rating (5w) But yes, after that it does get expensive.

> Right. I think that was the principal instance of an earlier such.
> (Jeff is I think right that you can't for Deep Gloranthan Reasons
> get the exact same HQ challenge benefit twice -- still leaves the
> instance where you have a 'mundane' ability that duplicates the
gained
> one, but one can simply preclude adding in that case, too.) One
might
> also argue that augments are somewhat like this too; though here,
> as with the "integrated passion spirit" type of secret, one is only
> adding a fraction of one of the TNs.
>
>
> Said Jeff:
> > But its a _secret_ so that's what makes it so powerful. Secrets
are
> > not easy to get - I tell you this for free!
>
> Well, two of my PCs have theistic secrets... Maybe I need to have
> them auditted (by someone other than Arthur Andersen). Admittedly
> this may be atypical as they started off as "advanced occupation"
> types, and furthermore seem to be spending their HPs very "broad"
> rather than "deep". I shudder to think what sort of numbers I'd be
> looking at if they went the dreaded "increase fave. ability by one
> per session no matter what" route, which had I been guessing off the
> top of my head I might have suspected would be the popular route.

Yeah, My group is JUST getting to the point where the group has secrets and I've been accused of generosity. =) But a secret requires an invesiture of 270 HP to get (assuming 3 1w Affinities). It should be WORTH it. And it is... Usually.

On the other hand, my view is that our Vingan with her 2w4 Ranged Combat is Highly Magical. When she dies, folks will worship HER and get her 'Thornspear Throw' feat... =) I'd best get around to killing her.

But it beats rustling sheep.

Jeff