Re: Repeating heroquests

From: Alex Ferguson <abf_at_...>
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 19:47:53 +0100

On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:28:58PM +0100, Benedict Adamson wrote:
> In my Glorantha I'd file that rule under 'having so many exceptions as
> to be useless'. I'd say it's true for EXACTLY THE SAME BENEFIT. But as
> the benefit is likely to be at least slightly different for all
> practical situations, I'd say it practically never applies.

I think that might be overstating it, but agree to a point.

> A better example is Orlanth and Aroka. This seems to be the Orlanthi
> way to end a drought

Well, as I mentioned elsewhere, there are multiple--

> (please, don't bring up the multiple myth variants as a pathetic work
> around).

Oh. ;-)

> If the rule is left to stand and all droughts are seen as the same,
> you are left in the absurd (to me) situation that a mighty Orlanth
> Hero Quester could end only one drought in his entire lifetime.
> However, if you abandon the rule, or consider eliminating each
> particular drought as a different benefit, the clan will be safe from
> drought for the Hero's entire lifetime (which seems more sensible to
> me).

I think it's hard to generalise here. Everything in Glorantha has a myhtic reason -- or can be construed as having one, or more, which will suffic for our purposes. If the mythic cause is the same for the second drought, then evidently the first 'fix' is wearing off; ideally you'd have a hero cult of the first guy reinforce the results of the original quest, which is in all probability a much less troublesome proposition, anyway. If the cause is different, you need a different quest to fix it; possible for the same guy to do this, though the mythic choices he made the first one might impede him in certain ways, if they 'overlap' too much. You're magically impelled to recapitulate what you did before, which a clever magical enemy may be exploiting...

> Is the rule really part of Gloranthan reality? I suspect it's just a
> kludge to prevent gross power gaming abuses (I defeat X and thus gan
> +N to Y; repeat.).

I'm certain Greg has alluded to this long time since, and not in the context of (any of) the game(s). So I think it is part of (his) Gloranthan reality, but even if YGDNV in this instance, I think one needs to be alive to certain subtleties of interpretation.

Cheers,
Alex.

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