Re: Can a spiritist belongs to 2 traditions?

From: Chris Lemens <chrislemens_at_...>
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 07:39:54 -0700 (PDT)


This is more cultural than rules but . . .

"yanafal2000":
>
> Actually, after many thoughts about my Oasian
> Tradition, I am close to a conclusion:
>
> Great Spirit: None (Genert is dead...)
> Core practice: Tada the Giant Ancestor

Note that the Nomads do not understand that the Oasis People worship Tada. If they did, they would be greatly offended, because they think of Tada as the first Khan and Waha as his successor. Having Oasis scum worship your cultural hero's predecessor is demeaning. When Beast Riders feel demeaned, people die.

> Helper practice: Tada the Secret Warrior
> (for orthodox and dedicaced followers of Tada,
> who train in secret and wait for the awakening
> of Tada)

I would not phrase it this way. I would call this Tada the Dancer. His followers still practice the strange stick and basket dances handed down from old. When Tada or Genert or whatever is reborn, they discover that the stick is a spear (pike, sword, whatever) and the basket is a shield. Unbeknownst to themselves, they have been practicing martial drills for centuries, so they are ready to fight.

> many local praxian spirits

In particular, they would almost all worship the water spirit of their own oasis. This would be the spirit that they worship most publicly when Nomads are around. Form a rules perspective, this is probably a helper practice if you look at all Oases, but woudl be very like a core practice if you looked at just one Oasis.

> Shamanic practice: The Dreamer (Tada's otherworld
> seems close to the strange Dreamworld)

Not sure where this is coming from. I'd use the Horned Man. Even the Beast Riders know that shamans are so strange that it would not be unheard of for an Oasis groundman to become one. The Horned Man is kind of an outsider to the Genert culture that preceded the Darkness.

If you do want to go with the Dreamer idea, though, I'd identify the Dreamer with the sleeping spirit of Tada (though I would let the players discover this later). Because in some sense Tada is physicially buried under the Tumulus, his sleeping spirit could represent a doorway to the spirit world. If this is the case, I'd bet that new Oasis shamans have to go to the Tumulus as part of becoming a shaman.

> No true Oasian would be accepted by a spirit
> talker of Waha or Eritha (unless he abandons
> his oasis, forgotting the ways of Tada and
> manges somehow to prove himself worthy of
> Waha or more probably Eritha),

Probably not even then. He's a ground man. He's not fully human to Beast Riders. (This is what makes Argrath White Bull's rise so remarkable.)

> and no outsider would ever learn the
> secrets of Tada !

If you mean the Oasis religion generally, I agree because (a) they keep it secret and (b) no nomad would want to. If you mean the secret of raising Tada's warriors from the Sleeping City at Tada's Tumulus, the Beast Riders value and try to obtain this secret as much (or more than) anyone.



Chris Lemens                          


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