Re: Active Feats for initiates

From: Roderick and Ellen Robertson <rjremr_at_...>
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 09:27:06 -0700

> I've been reading the rules again, and have fallen into something of a
> confusion.
> Initiates who concentrate their magic can use common magic feats actively.
> (HQ118)
> On Hq120, it says "Unlike initiates, devotees can actively use feats".
> Initiates don't get the feats of their gods affinities, although they may
> improvise them at a -10 (-5 if they are concentrated).

Correct. Note that "Common Magic feats" and "Affinity feats" are acting a little differently - once you've concentrated your magic you can use Common Magic feats actively at the normal ability rating, but not feats from an affinity (as an initiate, that is).

> Are initiates able to use those improvised feats actively? If not, then in
> most cases, wouldn't initiates augment directly with the affinity, instead
> of augmenting with a feat?

Yes, when an initiate improvises a feat, he uses it actively. It's just that he doesn't get it at his normal ability rating, but at a penalty. Devotees get their feats at their normal affinity ability rating.

> Initiates of say, Destor, can learn affinities or feats from other
> of Orlanth Adventurous, with or without joining the subcult (HQ p120).
> can learn the feats individually, instead of the whole affinity. Are those
> feats active?


>Does it make a difference whether the initiate has
> concentrated their magic?


> If those feats belong to say, a combat affinity, shared with the initial
> cult, does a Devotee get to rank them with their combat affinity, or are
> they completely separate abilities?

Stand Alone feats learned from a different subcult are seperate abilities. It doesn't "belong" to the Combat affinity, and it doesn't increase when you put HP into your Combat affinity.

Note that a devotee getting magic from a subcult is treated as an initiate with regards to the magic - if he wants to get the feats of the affinity he'd have to Devote himself to the subcult (basically, switching subcults), so a Destor devotee that wants the Raiding fetas of Finovan has to switch his devotion from Destor to Finovan.

It is by my order and for the good of the state that the bearer of this has done what he has done.
- Richelieu

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