Re: Are Multiple Attack rules broken?

From: Roderick and Ellen Robertson <rjremr_at_...>
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 09:01:52 -0800

> How in the world do I calculate AP tranfer/loss in this situation? It
could even be worse--I
> could see a set of skills & rolls where the attacker succeeds against one
and fails against
> another.

Basically, any contest, no matter how complex, should devolve into one die roll vrs one die roll.

The hero rolls once vrs the opponents, who roll seperately (and don't forget the -3 Multiple target penalty, if applicable). The best opponent roll is used *as if it were the only roll for the entire opponent's side*.

So, in your fight with Barusharp, we need to know what the opponent's rolled, and which had the best roll.
Example:
Broo 1 rolls 2 - a Success (before mastery bumps are applied) Broo 2 rolls 19 - a Failure (before mastery bumps are applied)

Barusharp's ability is compared to the best roll: Broo 1's success. *Now* take bumps into consideration (gee, too bad that Mr 11W2 failed, ain't it?). Finally, compare bump-modified rolls and determine the level of victory (or defeat) for the fight.

If the Broos lost, then Barusharp can assign AP losses as he wishes (all to one opponent; some to one, some to the other). If the Broos win, it doesn't matter, since only one person is losing AP. If the Broos win and get a transfer, then the narrator assigns how the points are transferred.

Under this way of doing it (ie, the rules as written, which say "roll") It doesn't matter that Broo2 might have got a better final result than Broo1 (because of that extra bump), the best die roll is used. (Since the outcome of the die roll is Critical, Success, Failure, Fumble, it would be perfectly okay to use Broo2's ability rating if the two broos had both rolled the same result - don't worry about "who rolled lower"),

Outside the "rules-as-written":

1. Look at the (bump-modified) final results for all combatant combinations, best Opponent result is used: Barusharp get a Success-Fail against Broo1, but only a Low-end Successt-Success against Broo2 - final result is Broos lose 1/2 bid.
2. Keep the -3/extra opponent rule, but the narrator only rolls fo rthe *best* opponent; the others augment him (sort of like followers), so that in the above battle, Broo1 wouldn't roll, but would give +3 to Broo2. If the broos lose, they are treated like two seperate entities for AP loss purposes, not the "Follower gets one level worse" rule.

RR
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