Sure, you're right (for the way some people play it I s'pose)
But...I disagree that 17 is a low score; I tried to say that it isn't really low, but only becomes low when we start chucking abilities of 5W-plus all over the shop.
Your Bog-standard Mr. Seductive tries to seduce a PC with his Waxed 'tache
14 +2 Cheeky Grin = 16.
Hero(ine) Miss Faithful resists with Loves Mister Square Jaw 17
Those ratings are all fair enough, that's ballpark for a starting game, no?
Give Miss Faithful augments from Faithful (+2), Shy (+2), Not One for Facial Hair (+1); allow the addition of Mister Square Jaw's Desperately Handsome in a Kinda Dull Way +2 and she's on 4W. Pretty good. Same goes for the carpenter. If it's important to the story, loads of buttons are going to be pushed.
We start chucking abilities of 10W around and after a bit we start thinking 17 is low. (I believe.) Also, some of the abilities which come for free with keywords at 17 but don't really describe the character so well I think devalue those 17's somewhat.
Sam.
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[mailto:HeroQuest-rules_at_yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Ashley Munday
Sent: 02 June 2007 17:06
To: HeroQuest-rules_at_yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: [WorldofGlorantha] Re: Glorantha,
HeroQuest and metamagic (moved from WoG)
Watcha,
The problem here is that ability ratings are not a measure of how strongly someone feels but a measure of how that ability affects the narrative. A character can have an ability of "Passionately in Love with Missus 17" but if he ever has to lean on it then there's a fair chance that character is going to end up with a defeat or a pretty meagre augment.
The same goes for a carpenter - just 'cause he or she's got a low score doesn't mean they're a bad carpenter, it just means that contests involving carpentry end up making things more interesting for the character.
Cheers,
Ash
> IMO Rory's ratings are way to high. If the idea is,
> can you seduce someone
> who is in love or is married, well just look at how
> very many people are not
> the child of who they think they are. People in love
> sleep with other people
> all the time.
>
> If you are talking about selling your beloved to a
> slave merchant, well, you
> need a situational modifier there I think.
>
> Also, taking modern romantic love as the yardstick
> is likely less
> interesting than having situations where people are
> with someone because
> that way they won't starve to death. The latter has
> so much more potental,
> IMO.
>
> Finally, if the idea is that a Carpenter 17 is a
> bloody good carpenter
> compared with me, well then, that 17 is higher than
> I think we get used to
> playing HQ.
>
> Sam.
>
>
> Jane after RR:
> > (figuring that if you're not "In love 5w",
> > you're not really In
> > Love, I suppose - "In Love 17" is pretty weak, and
> > would probably fall under "potential partner").
>
> Erm.... while I can see your point, this makes me
> more
> doubtful than ever about the character generation
> system. Your PC is married. But even if they put
> their
> precious 20 points into the relationship with their
> spouse, they're not really going to be in love by
> this
> yardstick. Never mind the description of them and
> their children, they're beginning characters, so
> they
> can't feel strongly about anything. There's
> something
> wrong here!
>
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