>At 18:54 12/10/00 +0100, you wrote:
>
>>Now, as we know from Roderick's previous posts that embodied spirits
>>(including those 'embodied' in fetishes) do NOT suffer the Alien World
>>modifier, if your assertion is correct, once spirits are bound or
>>Integrated, their Might should increase by 20 points!
>
>I really think you are twisting Roderick here.
The relevant messages are eGroups 2392 and the related thread:
"A spirit on the mundane plane that has a body (including a fetish)
does not suffer the Alien World mod. If it is disembodied, it does
(usually). If something pops through a Power Spot into the mundane
world, it suffers the Alien World mod."
this seems perfectly clear. If, as you say, spirits within the circle
get the -20, but spirits in fetishes do not, logically they must
suddenly gain 20 points of might after binding... I think not.
there's also 2111:
"The Shamanic Circle is *not* a Summoning Circle, it is a transport
device to get to the Spirit Plane. Once there, the tribesmen exit the
circle to encounter spirits. Normally this happens in "safe" parts of
the Spirit world - Eiritha's Herd or Waha's Camp, etc. Here the
spirits are generally friendly (or at least not antagonistic)."
which makes the idea of the circle as a 'safe place' somewhat
redundant- even the ordinary tribesman don't seem to need it!
Wulf
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