> Michael Hitchens:
>
> >On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Roderick and Ellen Robertson wrote:
>
> > > They exist in Glorantha, they just haven't had rules written for them
> > > because they are so rare. In all of Dragon Pass there are maybe half a
> > > dozen Humakt Disciples, and he is in the top three for number of
> > > disciples. Most cults do not have disciples.
>
> >Whoa. That few? I'm guessing that many players, espially eq-RQers, will
> >want to be disciples.
>
> I think they would want to be heroes instead.
So you see the two as mutually exclusive? My impression from RQ was that becoming a rune level was a step towards herodom. That may well have changed. In fact, can see there requirement for discile dom before herodom. But would it stop you? I don't quite follow that. Why couldn't a disciple of Humakt be a hero? And why couldn't a PC wish to be both?
> Given the detail that disciples spend about 90% of their time
> imitating their god's actions, one should be able to have a
> fair guess whether disciples exist for certain gods.
>
> For example, I can't imagine disciples for Bevara, Odayla,
> Hedkorath or Vanganth. I doubt Issaries has disciples as I
> have trouble with the image of Gringle Goodsell as a hero.
> Lhankor Mhy and Chalana Arroy seem alright as deities in which
> one can spend 90% of one's time following. Whether Orlanth
> and Ernalda can have disciples is probably complicated by
> their Great God status (after all, what's the difference if
> any between a disciple of Orlanth and an initiate to Orlanth
> the Great God?). Likewise the existence of Urox disciples
> is probably complicated by his defiant nature.
I'd like to think most of the major gods culd. As someone else has said, spending 90% of your time slaying chaos doesn't sound impossible as a Urox disciple. And while Gringle may be only a devotee or initiate, I would think a travelling merchant disciple is conceivable.
I'd also like to think disciples of Orlanth are possibkle in some way. Disciples of an aspect? The first place to look for a division, it seems to me, as whether you can get three affinities. If you can't, no disciples, if you can, we'll see.
I'd also not like to see sme of the old terminolgy get jettisioned. One of the things I most liked was the names rune level, runelord, rune priest, Sword of Humakt, Karrg's sons, Wind Lords. They're things unique to Glorantha and contribute a lot to its flavour. Generic terms like devotee and disciple are much less appealing. I want to see the old terms remain and to be things that PCs can realistically aspire to. I imiagine that priests of Orlanth are still Storm Voices and so on, but I'm hoping that TR makes good use of such names.
> >Anybody ever venture a semi-offical opinion on how many RQ runelords
> >there were? Just wondering how much of a change this is.
>
> Greg once wrote that there was about 2% of the general population
> (c.f. What It Takes To... Convince the Examiners in Wyrms
> Footprints). However most of this in HW would now be taken up by Devotees and
> social positions such as Ring Members, Priests and Warband Leaders.
So we're now talking 2% devotees, disciples, ring members?
Michael
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