Re: Uroxi and Storm Bulls

From: KYER, JEFFREY <jeff.kyer_at_...>
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 10:19:30 -0400

t.s.baguley_at_... wrote:
>
> Recap on new info (to me anyway).
>
> 1) Urox and Storm Bull are separare entities
> 2) Uroxi and Storm Bulls get on better than one might expect
> 3) They get their magic from the same place (The Eternal Battle)

More on less correct. Remember, we don't have the full story/information yet.  

> This implies that The Eternal Battle spans the god-plane and spirit-plane
> (I have no problem with this - Chaos is ripping the universe apart). It
> occurs to me that this split explains the Urox/Storm Bull separation.
> Somehow part of the original entity is trapped either side of the divide
> after/outside the battle (maybe The Devil did cut him in two!). Storm Bull
> and Urox worship therefore has shared mythology (and a single locus to gain
> magic from). Unlike most rival religions the secret myths of each group
> overlap and acknowledge each other, so Urox and Storm Bull worhsippers can
> get along without treading on eachothers toes (spiritually). Arguments and
> fights are no problem because well ... thats what Uroxi and Storm Bulls do.

Or, perhaps, there is soemthing else going on...  

> (BTW my problem with the (prior) separate entities idea is twofold. One it
> makes a mockery of the misapplied worhip rules (they don't apply to Gods
> with an 'R' in the name?). Two why should two similar but distinct
> religions get on? In most cases similar religions are more bitter rivals
> than separate ones. In Glorantha, this is compunded by Shamans and Priests
> being able to check the credentials of any foreign religions - "Nope,
> they're worshipping a spirit. Kill 'em.").

Perhaps because they serve very, very similar *Complimentary* functions in the ecosystem?

And if they are separate entities, there is no problem with misapplied worship, is there? If SB/Urox is a transcendent entity, then they are just two different parts. Sort of like deity aspects, I would suppose.

And, to be honest, if *I* was in the Eternal Battle and found a friendly face, I'd rembmer him and, if I was lucky enough to getout of there *alive* ... I'd buy him all the ale and whores he could possibly handle and then some. Maybe even ask him out on our next bash, since he's clearly got the bull's stones.

But expect more on this later, I think.  

> Oh yes, Kigor Lytor is a special case. I'm pretty sure that she was around
> before (under? outside?) the god-plane, scorcey-plane and spirit-plane
> existed.

Yeah. She sort of sprawls through the basement and crops up everywhere. Kinda like rats in New York.  

> Thom
>
> Thom Baguley
> Human Experimental Psychology
> Human Sciences, Loughborough University
> Loughborough, Leicestershire LE11 3TU, UK.
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>

Jeff

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